The Canadian Market for SxS's

VictoryXC said:
I picked up my first SxS just about two years ago and have picked up a few more since then. I now find myself always reaching for a SxS for any kind of upland hunting or even for a couple rounds of skeet. I am not sure about others, but for me the feel of a SxS is pretty tough to beat.
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Much the same here. For 20 years my sole shotgun was a 12 ga. 870. Hunted everything with it, from woodcock to deer. Then about 10 years ago I got my first doublegun, followed by a few more. Now my trusty 870 feels like a fence post in my hands, but it still kills waterfowl and turkeys for me.
 
ninepointer said:
Much the same here. For 20 years my sole shotgun was a 12 ga. 870. Hunted everything with it, from woodcock to deer. Then about 10 years ago I got my first doublegun, followed by a few more. Now my trusty 870 feels like a fence post in my hands, but it still kills waterfowl and turkeys for me.
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Ninepointer, I followed almost exactly the same path. Almost 30 years with my Wingmaster, then my first double in 2004. Followed quickly by more! I'll still use the Wingmaster when conditions warrant it and I shoot it reasonable well but it ain't no SxS.
 
I grew up on the prairies hunting waterfowl and upland birds shotgun of choice at the time was a win model 12 this was late 60's early70's still one of my fave shotguns then one day when I was in a gunshop in saskatoon I met a elderly fellow we became friends he invited me to house house to look a his shotguns I could not believe my eyes 4or5 win model 21's a couple of two bbl sets and some standard guns I had never seen a model 21 before, these were high grade models well I was hooked from that time on it took me many yrs to aquire some nice SXS 's . Now I have 12 ga 21 , 16ga Parker vhe and a win model 23 20ga . Not real high end guns but I hunt with them and they work fine . I still have a few model 12'a that get the call couldn't live without a model 12 or 2
 
canvasback said:
Ninepointer, I followed almost exactly the same path. Almost 30 years with my Wingmaster, then my first double in 2004. Followed quickly by more! I'll still use the Wingmaster when conditions warrant it and I shoot it reasonable well but it ain't no SxS.
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2004--YEEKS!! You are making me feel old. I bought my first SxS in 1971. A brand spanking new Lucio Loyola 20 gauge for $100.00 US which I still have. For my $100.00 I got walnut stocks, Anson forearm release, automatic safety, disk set strikers, 3" chambers, rubber recoil pad, pistol grip cap, Greener cross bolt, double under lugs, double triggers, extractors, and a nicely case colored action with some basic engraving.
 
gunsaholic said:
2004--YEEKS!! You are making me feel old. I bought my first SxS in 1971. A brand spanking new Lucio Loyola 20 gauge for $100.00 US which I still have. For my $100.00 I got walnut stocks, Anson forearm release, automatic safety, disk set strikers, 3" chambers, rubber recoil pad, pistol grip cap, Greener cross bolt, double under lugs, double triggers, extractors, and a nicely case colored action with some basic engraving.
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Wish I was able to spend $ when $ had value and went a little ways, even if it was harder to come by. Before stagflation, and the Allan Greenspan accepted & celebrated induced inflation.
 
Trivia:
I really hate to say this, but interested folks, Highwood Classic Arms in the UK has a fine looking Webley & Scott Model 700 SxS in 12 bore 2 3/4 inch for sale. (900 pounds IIRC)
Looks very very nice with it's straight English grip, and it has 25 inch pipes.

One pretty field gun that screams for woolen shooting jackets and good bird dogs!
 
I have a couple of a.h.fox sterlingworths that were about a third of the cost to me of my beretta 686 'sporting'. I still can not hit as many birds per round with the berretta as I can with the funky old side by eaches. when I compare the stock dimensions of the o/u to my browning silver hunter to the fox's to my old rem 870 20ga (another winner in my shooting cabinet) they are all so different that I have just given up on doing the stock dimension thing.

I digress. the point I wanted to make is that I am old enough now to have started a bucket list, and a top contender is my much desired AYA #2, a shotgun nut friend suggested that I take the same amount of money and have one of the fox guns refurbished and then I will have a 'new' gun that I know 'fits' (whatever that may mean). I like the idea, so now a fox refurbish has eclipsed the aya on my list. also I can have the chokes opened up in case the non tox issue raises it's head again.
 
jsdboy said:
I digress. the point I wanted to make is that I am old enough now to have started a bucket list, and a top contender is my much desired AYA #2, a shotgun nut friend suggested that I take the same amount of money and have one of the fox guns refurbished and then I will have a 'new' gun that I know 'fits' (whatever that may mean). I like the idea, so now a fox refurbish has eclipsed the aya on my list. also I can have the chokes opened up in case the non tox issue raises it's head again.
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I have 'refurbished" more than a few SxS. It's not a money making enterprise but I have been very pleased with the results. I'm not into SxS for profit. And after messing around for 8 years, I finally have all in place to begin a custom Fox 16 gauge based on a late Philly extractor SW. It will get custom shaping of the receiver and fences, new exhibition quality wood and custom engraving. If you are doing an older SxS like a Fox, be sure to have the stock redone and ensure the oil has been removed from the head of the stock and that it is glass bedded. The result will be worry free shooting.
 
Brought in a fine EJ Churchill 20 ga in August through Prophet River. Very smooth, took about a month from start to finish. Altogether with shipping to their Montana agent, Prophet River's fees which include all paperwork and shipping Montana to Lloydminster AB, shipping to me in B C, customs charges including GST and PST and the biggy - dollar exchange it added about 55% in Canadian dollars. J
 
Ashcroft said:
Brought in a fine EJ Churchill 20 ga in August through Prophet River. Very smooth, took about a month from start to finish. Altogether with shipping to their Montana agent, Prophet River's fees which include all paperwork and shipping Montana to Lloydminster AB, shipping to me in B C, customs charges including GST and PST and the biggy - dollar exchange it added about 55% in Canadian dollars. J
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We charge 200.00 for a shotgun. There will be 5% GST when it comes across the border on all guns and an extra 3.5% duty if made outside NAFTA.
 
Well Well now. Hadn't seen this thread on SxS's. Count me in the club. I have owned and traded a few ( yes some mistakes made) and right now own only 2. A JP Sauer 16g Royal in very nice shape and a Merkel 20g. The itch I have is buy a 28g but haven't come across the right one yet. I have owned a CZ Bobwhite in 20g but wasn't wild about how the 28 felt but I only handled a Ringneck which is a pistol grip single trigger. Someday the right 28 will show up and I won't have the discipline to say no. Yes the feel and balance of a SxS is pleasant thing. I hunt over pointing dogs so shots tend to be closer than long so both my doubles were opened up to SK/LM.
 
Redcoat said:
Hopefully with the CETA agreement with European Countries we can rid of that 3.5% charge.
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You never did get out pheasant hunting with us last fall. Get yourself a good SxS, and join us for a hunt next year. There are three of us hunting together now that use SxS shotguns exclusively for pheasant and upland birds.:)
 
First SXS was around the 1970 time frame, a Spanish 20 ga, think it was maybe 100-110.00 new. Had 2 or 3 more after that, always had issues with one barrel not firing on those. Shot a few of the BSS's, didn't like them. A CZ a few yrs back was the first one I picked up and liked right off the bat, still have it. Was looking to upgrade it, but haven't found anything I liked, that I could justify spending the money on. Then I ran across the Fabarms in 12ga, and ended up buying those, SST, but had everything else I wanted on it. They have performed very well for me. I drug out my SBE for a couple of really krappy weather shoots last fall, honestly didn't like using it anymore. Still looking for a 20ga I like that has all the features I want. Euro mfgrs are finally waking up and building some suitable style guns, just haven't seen anything that really turns my crank, yet. The bulk of them are upland guns, I want a waterfowling gun. In the meantime, that CZ outclasses a lot of guns that are over twice its price, that carry some higher class names, some are, and others may even be rebadged Huglus, or another Turkish brand. Didn't seem like I was asking a lot, English straight stock, oiled, 3" 20ga, 28" , screw in chokes, suitable for steel. Other than the Turkish guns, there is not much under 3000.00. Haven't seen a FAIR or a Fausti I liked yet, except maybe Cat's FAIR hammer gun, but, have not physically seen one to check out yet.
I'll keep looking, one day, maybe.
 
canvasback said:
I finally have all in place to begin a custom Fox 16 gauge based on a late Philly extractor SW. It will get custom shaping of the receiver and fences, new exhibition quality wood and custom engraving.
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Please post a progress thread James. That sounds like a great project. I would love to see it unfold.
 
Ashcroft said:
Brought in a fine EJ Churchill 20 ga in August through Prophet River. Very smooth, took about a month from start to finish. Altogether with shipping to their Montana agent, Prophet River's fees which include all paperwork and shipping Montana to Lloydminster AB, shipping to me in B C, customs charges including GST and PST and the biggy - dollar exchange it added about 55% in Canadian dollars. J
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PR's US FFL partner is Gunsabroad LLC in Lynden, WA, not Montana.

I have used PR to import a couple dozen rifles... they offer great customer service and have simplified the importing process. In my experience though, expect a two month turnover from purchase to actual receipt.
 
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