The end of BC Grizzly hunting is possible.

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NDP and Green party are planning to form a coalition government to topple the BC Liberals. The Liberals are the only party in BC that are committed to keeping a grizzly hunt.

I know of many resident hunters that refused to vote for the Liberals this election due to the Liberals support of the Guide Outfitters Association revisiting the allocation policy after it was a done deal, to give outfitters more tags at the expense of resident tags. Resident hunters felt stabbed in the back, and this may have had an effect at the polls.

2017 may be the last year grizzlies are hunted in BC for some time. Be interesting to see where this coalition goes.
 
It may be, and then it may not be. How many doom and gloom scnearios were written whe JT and company were elected, yet so far, nothing has happened. Here in Ontario, the Spring bear hunt was ended by a very, very, blue government, and re-instated by a Lieberal government so leftist that would make the NDP look like the Tea Party.
 
Well... that sucks... as it always does when politicians are given control of our natural resources... public opinion is a poor way to manage wildlife.
 
Would that include guided hunts as well?
Could put some guys out of business if it does.

Especially guided hunts.

Many in the Green and NDP view these as 'trophy hunts where some rich foreigner cuts off the head and hide of a majestic animal to stroke their own ego"

There has even been some NDP suggestion that they wouldn't just ban grizzly hunting, but make it illegal to take anything from the bear other than the meat.
 
It may be, and then it may not be. How many doom and gloom scnearios were written whe JT and company were elected, yet so far, nothing has happened. Here in Ontario, the Spring bear hunt was ended by a very, very, blue government, and re-instated by a Lieberal government so leftist that would make the NDP look like the Tea Party.

Nothing is set in stone but as the numbers stand now:

Liberal- 43 seats
NDP-41 seats
Green- 3 seats

Assuming everyone shows up that day to vote, if there is a motion on banning grizzly hunting put forward, the NDP/Green could vote it in.
 
It may be, and then it may not be. How many doom and gloom scnearios were written whe JT and company were elected, yet so far, nothing has happened. Here in Ontario, the Spring bear hunt was ended by a very, very, blue government, and re-instated by a Lieberal government so leftist that would make the NDP look like the Tea Party.

Nothing has happened? Debt soaring,cuts to defense,laughing stock for foreign policy..........holy crap,are you kiddin'? I wouldn't be too quick to Wynne and company a lot of credit for re-instating the spring Bear hunt,either. She knew she was about to lose the Nickle Belt ridings from unemployment and business collapse along with out-of-control Bear populations nuisance calls and people were terrified. She had absolutely no choice. Those were left wing ridings she needed to keep from the NDP at all costs.
I sure hope the BC electorate can see their way through to reigning in the lefties,but,I'm not overly optimistic. This could be the final nail in the Grizzly hunt's coffin and the beginning of the end for all hunting and fishing in the province.
 
Nothing is set in stone but as the numbers stand now:

Liberal- 43 seats
NDP-41 seats
Green- 3 seats

Assuming everyone shows up that day to vote, if there is a motion on banning grizzly hunting put forward, the NDP/Green could vote it in.

Those three green seats are in charge of that government. They can easily vote as they see fit. Making a coalition, would just quiet those three greens.
 
h ttp://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/b-c-first-nations-not-fully-sold-on-liberal-platform-to-end-grizzly-trophy-hunt-in-great-bear-rainforest


Grizzly trophy hunting will continue almost unabated in B.C. despite an election pledge by the Liberal government to end the unpopular sport in the Great Bear Rainforest.

Steve Thomson, minister of Forests, Lands and Natural Resource Operations, said in an interview Wednesday that on average about 250 grizzlies are killed annually by hunters across the province — with about 11 of those, or less than five per cent, shot within the Great Bear Rainforest. (Research by the Raincoast Conservation Foundation suggests 26 annual kills is closer to the historic average.)

Thomson said the Liberal promise to ban grizzly hunting within the rainforest recognizes the uniqueness of the coastal region and concerns of Coastal First Nations, and that hunting of grizzlies would continue elsewhere in B.C. based on good science and sustainable populations. The province estimates there are about 15,000 grizzlies in B.C., almost 10 per cent of them in the Great Bear Rainforest.

The Liberal platform states: “Today’s B.C. Liberals will work with the Coastal First Nations towards the elimination of the grizzly-bear hunt in the Great Bear Rainforest, continuing with the science-based approach to the bear hunt elsewhere in the province.”

Thomson said further multi-party talks are required before a ban can be implemented, perhaps through an order-in-council or Wildlife Act regulation.


Any decision to end the grizzly trophy hunt in the Great Bear Rainforest would have to involve existing commercial guide-outfitters, who cater to affluent foreign hunters, and the 50,000-member B.C. Wildlife Federation, which represents resident hunters.

One likely scenario is for First Nations to buy-out those guide-outfitters currently in place in the Great Bear Rainforest, with help from philanthropic foundations.

Thomson added he believes that the B.C. Wildlife Federation is on-board with the planned ban. “I think they understand the rationale for doing this and that they’ll accept it within the Great Bear Rainforest.”

The federation said it won’t be commenting on political platforms during the election.

An official with Coastal First Nations said he is glad to see the Liberal election position, but isn’t sold until he sees the ban actually happen.

“I don’t feel comfortable until we have something in writing,” said Doug Neasloss, chief of the Kitasoo/Xaixais band council in remote Klemtu. “I’m always a bit skeptical. Election time is obviously when people make a lot of promises. If we can hold their feet to the fire and make sure we end it … There’s a lot of conversations that have to happen.”

He added: “I’m glad to see their policy. Obviously, we’re not going anywhere. We’re committed to ending it.”

The NDP has promised to ban the trophy hunt provincewide if elected, while leaving open the possibility for hunts where the grizzly meat is consumed. One way to regulate such hunts may be to require hunters to turn over those parts of the grizzly that might be used for trophies, including the head and pelt.

The Green party would make it a rule that anyone who kills a grizzly bear would have to cart the meat out to their home, an initiative that would especially discourage hunts by foreigners.

The Commercial Bear Viewing Association said in a news release that its members want an end to the trophy hunting of grizzlies throughout the province. Association spokesman Julius Strauss said bear-viewing has become a major ecotourism revenue generator, bringing in about 10 times more than grizzly-bear hunting.

“Some of our members operate in the Great Bear Rainforest and for them this ban, if and when it happens, could be good news,” Strauss said. “But many bear-viewing companies are in other areas of the province. From a B.C. grizzly bear’s perspective the chance that this policy change will save you from a trophy hunter’s bullet is very small.”

The Great Bear Rainforest covers an area of about 6.4 million hectares from about Quadra Island north to the border with southeastern Alaska.

Others members of Coastal First Nations include the Wuikinuxv, Heiltsuk, Nuxalk, Gitga’at, Metlakatla, Old Massett, Skidegate and Council of the Haida Nation.

Other First Nations such as the Nisga’a in the Nass Valley wish to continue grizzly hunting.

In 2015, an Insights West online poll found that 91 per cent of British Columbians oppose sport trophy hunting.

lpynn@postmedia.com
 
i feel your pain it s coming everywhere ... they are starting with the grizzly do not worry that is the beginning of the hunt in general .... just a matter of time.

some are optmistic, some are blind, im just realistic on that one ...
 
Shame gov'ts don't govern on facts and science, instead giving way to public opinion and outcry.

Public opinion has shaped our game laws since the 1950s. But don't worry, the guides association are our savior!
It is they who give considerable funding to the provincial governments, and that will keep grizzly seasons open, to a very limited few.
 
The Grizzly Bear Hunt will never die.
The government may ban it for us mere BC Residents, but the Indigenous Peoples will be the next user group to be the administrators of the next phase of Grizzly Bear Hunting in BC.
Same ole Song and Dance, just a different partner and a whole lot more Monies for the user groups.
Rob
 
The Grizzly Bear Hunt will never die.
The government may ban it for us mere BC Residents, but the Indigenous Peoples will be the next user group to be the administrators of the next phase of Grizzly Bear Hunting in BC.
Same ole Song and Dance, just a different partner and a whole lot more Monies for the user groups.
Rob

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NDP and Green party are planning to form a coalition government to topple the BC Liberals. The Liberals are the only party in BC that are committed to keeping a grizzly hunt.

I know of many resident hunters that refused to vote for the Liberals this election due to the Liberals support of the Guide Outfitters Association revisiting the allocation policy after it was a done deal, to give outfitters more tags at the expense of resident tags. Resident hunters felt stabbed in the back, and this may have had an effect at the polls.

2017 may be the last year grizzlies are hunted in BC for some time. Be interesting to see where this coalition goes.

100% as well. However we voted Liberal and its a hold in our riding.
 
Grizzly hunting on the coast (where the monster big bears are) is in the most peril, mostly because the grizzly viewing companies have made it a big issue and funneled money to native bands there. Ironic, as some of the most prolific and expert grizzly guides in the area have been natives. In the article above, you see the N'isga want to keep grizzly hunting- as several guide areas are owned by them.
 
Kitimat is crawling with grizzlies this year. 3 females with cubs right near residential areas. 2 of which are already acting aggressive and charging any cars going by. Someone going by on a bike is going to get it. There has been an explosion of grizzlies in our area. Never seen so many here.
 
Nothing has happened? Debt soaring,cuts to defense,laughing stock for foreign policy..........holy crap,are you kiddin'? I wouldn't be too quick to Wynne and company a lot of credit for re-instating the spring Bear hunt,either. She knew she was about to lose the Nickle Belt ridings from unemployment and business collapse along with out-of-control Bear populations nuisance calls and people were terrified. She had absolutely no choice. Those were left wing ridings she needed to keep from the NDP at all costs.
I sure hope the BC electorate can see their way through to reigning in the lefties,but,I'm not overly optimistic. This could be the final nail in the Grizzly hunt's coffin and the beginning of the end for all hunting and fishing in the province.

First off, this is a gun forum. On the gun file, nothing has happened. As to the why Premier Orville re-instated the spring bear hunt, it doesn't really matter why it was done. To the guys that hunt bear in the Spring, what counts is tha they can now go out hunting. No party, no matter what its stripe, does anything without weighing the political advantages or considerations.
 
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