The FAMAE SG542: Initial thoughts and observations (Range Report on post 40)

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I was doomed as soon as I read Marstar’s post: “We have our first shipment of prime quality 7.62 Nato FMJ on the way in...Due in 2-3 weeks.” Wow, I thought, good quality 7.62 surplus at not a bad price…I should pick some up. Of course there was the small issue of not having a 7.62mm rifle since I sold my Norc M14 a few years back. I liked the M14 OK, but didn’t really want another one. I was generally aware of the SG542 as it had been available for more than a year now, but didn’t know many of the details. I did some research and reading and was lucky enough to find this one unfired on the EE for a pretty good price. Many of you are already know a lot about the SG542, but if you, like me until recently, don’t know a whole lot, have a read. I know that officially this is a .30 calibre rifle and could arguably fit better in the MBR forum, but it feels to me more in the spirit of a black rifle.

A quick bit of history—the SG542 (and the 5.56mm version, the SG540) was designed by SIG in the early 1970s. Due to Swiss export restrictions, manufacturing was moved to France and eventually under license to FAMAE, Chile’s state-owned arms manufacturer. Efforts were started a couple of years ago to produce a version that could be exported and sold in Canada as a non-restricted firearm, and last year importation started.

I didn’t realize until I started looking into the rifle that there are actually two versions available in Canada. One is imported and sold by Tactical Imports, and mine, which was imported by ERE Systems and originally sold by the Calgary Shooting Centre. Officially, mine is known by the fancy name “FAMAE SG 542-1 ERE Elite”. Other than the name stamped on the sides I don’t know if there are any other differences.

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I was pleasantly surprised at the handiness of the rifle. It’s 7.8 pounds with an 18.7” barrel, so it’s not night and day different than a full-size AR. I dug my old Ishapore FN out from the back of the safe to compare and was surprised by how much longer and (especially) heavier the FN was (about 1.7lb)…the SG542 is much more comfortable to hold. The pistol grip is fairly short, and with AR psitol grips going more and more vertical recently, feels noticeably raked. The mold lines in the plastic are fairly prominent, but could be easily removed with an emery board.

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The handguards are quite narrow and semi-triangular, for wanted of a better word. Even with my smallish hands I can get an easy grip on them.



The rear sight is a knurled rotating drum, graduated at 100m, 300m and 500m. The rear sight is windage adjustable using the screw. Doing some test sighting at home I found the white number distracting—I’ll have to see how it works on the range. The safety is ambidextrous.
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The front sight is a standard blade with wings to protect it. The screw is used to fine-tune the elevation setting. Some members here have reported that their front sight was loose…but mine is tight so far.
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The flash hider is pinned instead of the more common threading. I’ve heard of other members here whose flash hider loosened up…I’ll have to keep an eye on this as well. You can also see the three-position gas regulator.
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I’ve never owned a Swiss Arms rifle was was always curious about the little plunger dealy in the picture above. Surely, I thought, it must be some some of trigger stop…it can’t be part of the actual trigger mechanism…like a water pistol’s trigger. Well, turns out I was wrong. It is. I know it’s fine, but I still think it looks a little cheesy. The two-stage trigger pull, by the way, is quite nice, The first stage is the take-up before contacting the “plunger” and the second stage is heavy (maybe 6 or 7 lb?) but smooth and fairly short.



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Disassembly is surprisingly easy…pop out a couple of pins to separate upper and lower, then rotate a captive screw 180° to get at the piston.


Here’s the bolt and bolt carrier:
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Here’s the lower receiver:
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This is my first stamped-steel rifle…I know it’s not but it looks a little too thin compared to what I’m used to!


Here’s the upper:
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Mine came with the optional optic rail. It attaches in an unusual way. The front has a tapered groove on the bottom
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that mates with the front of the upper receiver
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The rear of the mount has a tapered bolt
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that is rotated to mate with this notch below the rear sight
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A set-screw keeps it from backing out (I guess!). I’m not sure I’ll put an optic on the rifle…the design of the stock looks like it would be tough to get a proper cheek weld with anything other than a mini-RDS mounted right on the rail. I kind of like the “late Cold War era” look of it with just the irons…I’ll start with it like that and see how it works.


So far, I’m pleased with my initial look at the rifle. I’ll try to get out to the range in the next few days for a a range report.
 
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Does it "feel" like you got what you paid for? I hear a lot of complaints of guys picking the rifle up for the first time and instantly being put off buy the general sensation that it's a cheaply made rifle not worth the $$$. I really do like the rifle, just trying to get some input before I consider buying.
 
Does it "feel" like you got what you paid for? I hear a lot of complaints of guys picking the rifle up for the first time and instantly being put off buy the general sensation that it's a cheaply made rifle not worth the $$$. I really do like the rifle, just trying to get some input before I consider buying.
That's an interesting question! I've not owned a Swiss Arms rifle so I can't compare directly with one; the closest would be a few Tavors and FS2000s I've owned which would be around the same price range. To me the initial "fit and finish" quality certainly seems comparable to those. The fit between upper and lower is good, the finish on the exterior metal is fine, the machining and finishing of the bolt and carrier is good (there are a few minor machining marks evident on the rear part of the bolt), the trigger pull is better than expected and the working of the action is pleasantly smooth. It does not feel cheap to me.

I've never held one so take my comment for what it's worth but add a rail and an extra magazine and you are up to $3K before taxes and shipping. That's a lot of cake.
And the 15% tax here on new ones is even worse. There have been a few good deals on the EE as well as this one. I was happy with what I paid.
 
I have Swiss Arms rifles to compare it against. While I thought for a lot of years the Swiss rifles were overpriced, ( I guess I still do, but I'm a cheap bastard) they did offer superior craftsmanship and an accuracy guarantee at 300m. Price of guns, mags and parts was overshadowed with quality, accuracy and utter reliability. Grudgingly I eventually succumbed, and even with the present turmoil, glad I had (have?) an opportunity to enjoy these wonderful machines.
The .308 famae pricing, I think played off of the Swiss Arms successes and the fact of being a non-restricted semi auto .308 (what's not to love right?), limited competition.

Im glad I held out on purchasing one because being as objective as I can, I personally feel they are way overpriced.
If they were in the neighbourhood of $1300-1500 and mags were reasonably priced at say no more than $50-60 a pop, I think that would be more in line with what they are worth.
Ymmv.
 
I have Swiss Arms rifles to compare it against. While I thought for a lot of years the Swiss rifles were overpriced, ( I guess I still do, but I'm a cheap bastard) they did offer superior craftsmanship and an accuracy guarantee at 300m. Price of guns, mags and parts was overshadowed with quality, accuracy and utter reliability. Grudgingly I eventually succumbed, and even with the present turmoil, glad I had (have?) an opportunity to enjoy these wonderful machines.
The .308 famae pricing, I think played off of the Swiss Arms successes and the fact of being a non-restricted semi auto .308 (what's not to love right?), limited competition.

Im glad I held out on purchasing one because being as objective as I can, I personally feel they are way overpriced.
If they were in the neighbourhood of $1300-1500 and mags were reasonably priced at say no more than $50-60 a pop, I think that would be more in line with what they are worth.
Ymmv.

^^x3, I did not want to say anything, didn't want to offend the OP, but since someone already mentioned it so if helps fellow shooter to form some informed opinions, here it goes,
I have 3 swiss ARMS 2 x CQB, and a NR which I paid $2700 new. I detail stripped a Famae and my swiss side by side , I wish I had my camera with me at the time, I met someone with a fame at the range., anyways.
in my honest opinion, famae is no where near Swiss quality, in fact, not even remotely close....but it is priced the same. I'm sure the famae is a good gun and shoots well, just not 3k worthy.
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I really like it and I'm glad your loving yours , but it's about a 1000$ overpriced , id pay about 1700 tops for one . That being said I would sure like to shoot one ! Hope your loving your new toy and safe shooting . Ernst
 
If the swiss arms get NR status again hopefully that will force the NR approval of the SAPR and other 550 variants since legal precidence will have been set for 550 variants (which the swiss arms always was) to be named NR
 
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