The M1941 Johnson Thread

smellie said:
Smellie has to go to the machine-shop and get a couple of special tools made first, Tinman. THEN the thing can be rebarreled with this here brand-new-in-wrap Springfield 2-groove. I have great hopes for the rifle, once that is done; the rest is in fine shape.

Right now, an 8mm slug will drop right through the bore, accelerating all the way!

NOT conducive to the finest in accuracy, one might say.

Friend DALEK sure got a nice one, though!
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There you go friends, it's in writing, Smellie may one day let me play with his Johnson. :)
 
DJdeadlyDALEK said:
Where did you get that info? I've read 70,000 and I've also read 30,000 on another site, haven't seen the numbers 21,400
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From "Johnson Rifles and Machineguns" Canfield
Two Dutch contracts for 10200 each and 1000 for Chile. The US arms were diverted from the Dutch contract.
Canfield discusses the serial number system , a letter prefix followed by up to a four digit number on all major components. Many more sets of parts were made than complete rifles so someone looking at a compnent numbered D1234 would assume this was from a rifle in the 50,000 range. It also appears that the manufacturer despite numbering the parts did not match the numbers when assembling rifles.
 
smellie said:
Smellie has to go to the machine-shop and get a couple of special tools made first, Tinman. THEN the thing can be rebarreled with this here brand-new-in-wrap Springfield 2-groove. I have great hopes for the rifle, once that is done; the rest is in fine shape.

Right now, an 8mm slug will drop right through the bore, accelerating all the way!

NOT conducive to the finest in accuracy, one might say.

Friend DALEK sure got a nice one, though!
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any one looking to rebarrel should be looking for a used Ruger 3006 barrel, same thread, very close barrel contour . minimal machining.
 
Hi Guys,
Albion Arms in Peterborough was selling these things in the late 1950's in Mint condition for less that 100 bucks (Although that was a lot of money back then).

I was lucky, I found serial number 460.

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Cheers,

B
 
green said:
Total M1941 production was 21400, 20400 for NEI in 30-06 with a few hundred of these diverted to US and 1000 in 7x57 for Chile.
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Did the Netherlands East Indies army actually ever receive these rifles before the Japanese invasion in 1941, if so the Johnson Rifle was first used in combat by the NEI,
 
x westie said:
Did the Netherlands East Indies army actually ever receive these rifles before the Japanese invasion in 1941, if so the Johnson Rifle was first used in combat by the NEI,
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Pics of NEI soldiers with M1941s exist.
Canfield believes the first contract for 10200 were delivered to the NEI.

In 1940-1 the NEI was cut off from its supplier in Holland and was desperate for arms. Along with the M1941s attempts to manufacture the M1895 Rifle and Madsen MG in the US were made, Iver Johnson revolvers were bought, French Hotchkiss MGs converted to 7.62x54R were bought in the US and Italian Carcanos were obtained from Britain.
In "Australian Military Rifles and Bayonets" Skennerton The M1941 is listed as being issued to second line Australian units on a limited basis. The Johnsons were were obtained from NEI troops who had escaped.
 
green said:
From "Johnson Rifles and Machineguns" Canfield
Two Dutch contracts for 10200 each and 1000 for Chile. The US arms were diverted from the Dutch contract.
Canfield discusses the serial number system , a letter prefix followed by up to a four digit number on all major components. Many more sets of parts were made than complete rifles so someone looking at a compnent numbered D1234 would assume this was from a rifle in the 50,000 range. It also appears that the manufacturer despite numbering the parts did not match the numbers when assembling rifles.
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Awesome! Thanks for the info

If anyone is interested in seeing her in action, I'm 90% certain I'll have her out this Saturday at eesa in Aylmer, Ontario for a trial run. I'll shoot video for those of you who are too far away ;)
 
Hmm, that's not too far. Ill see if I'm free, I might head down to check out your Johns.... rifle.
 
I found some that sold in Canada recently one for $2900 and another for $1250. I can't seem to find any for sale right now. I like it because it is different.
 
There were a couple gun stores selling a couple last year that are mentioned earlier in this thread, I believe. I'm sure they're long since sold or marked up even higher then the prices quoted last year, but scroll back, check the names of the stores and give them a call. You could get lucky. I also haven't made up my mind if I'm keeping her or selling her, but will be test firing her Saturday ;)
 
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