Key mod parts are becoming very standard and there are a ton of picatinny rails of various lengths available from a multitude of different manufacturers so you only need to put on what your going to use. A lot of grips, sling attachments, etc are becoming available in Keymod so you won't even require the added weight and bulk of a picatinny.
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I understand the usefulness of the keymod arrangement, but I need to know if there is any mounting at 6 o'clock. their website only lists at 3 and 9 which isn't very useful for a bipod, forward grip, hand stop, etc. I just need he ability to mount a quality bipod when I need it.
I am strongly leaning this direction over the PRI carbon hand guard for may reasons including aesthetics.
I am strongly leaning this direction over the PRI carbon hand guard for may reasons including aesthetics.
Fortis has keymods on the bottom.
It would make zero sense not to.
http://gundocdoctrine.com/2014/07/26/fortis-switch-handguard/
It would make zero sense not to.
http://gundocdoctrine.com/2014/07/26/fortis-switch-handguard/
Is there any chance we will have the option of the 12" Fortis Switch ?
Is it possible to bring in a couple of each of the options so we can check them out before our final decision? :-/ Wonder if there's any kicking around locally to look at. 12" one is only 8oz.
Is it possible to bring in a couple of each of the options so we can check them out before our final decision? :-/ Wonder if there's any kicking around locally to look at. 12" one is only 8oz.
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- calgary alberta
The original prototype is 110% sure thing as a NON restricted rifle. We are 99.9% sure that the re-examination of the production rifle will be NON restricted.
Short of death and tax there is nothing else that is 100% a sure thing.
We will be sending the 1st production rifle back for exam next week. Once we have the results we will know 100% whether or not they are NR in status.
Being as only cosmetic changes have been made, I can see no way that a change in status is possible, but we are talking about the government here.
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Because of dimensional differences in our upper being different than an AR10, thus making our rifle NOT an AR10 variant and NON restricted.
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- calgary alberta
Don't know as we do not have 1 to try on our rifle.
I noticed that the upper and lower are held together by 1 take down pin at the front only, versus AR15/AR10 system has 2 take down pins. This means the upper must have something to hold onto the lower at the rear, probably some sort of tongue and groove cut into the upper and lower or a block that fits into a recess cut. I see the rear of the lower is higher than a normal AR15/AR10 lower to house the attachment arrangement. This also means the registered receiver has a different design mechanism to engage the upper. That will make it a new design different from an AR15/AR10.
That is the probably the secret sauce for the non-restricted status. Remember, the LOWER is the firearm. The stuff that goes on the lower are just accessories.
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You're so close to being right, without quite hitting it exactly. Tongue and groove almost. Inside there's a little receiving hole (if I recall correctly is in the upper) and the lower has a sort of "poker" that fits into it. The fit is extremely precise and that's a large part of why it fits together so well. To break it down, you start with ensuring the hammer isn't cocked and then remove the forward push pin. Then if you place your fingers on the front of the mag well and push the edge of the handguard with your thumb, it shifts about 1/4"-1/2" forward, and then comes apart. I don't know if my description explains it properly though.
If ATRS is okay with it, I'd love to make a little video of the rifle before it gets sent off so people who aren't lucky enough to go see it in person can check it all out and see just how incredible (I think) this will be for the Canadian firearms market /industry
If ATRS is okay with it, I'd love to make a little video of the rifle before it gets sent off so people who aren't lucky enough to go see it in person can check it all out and see just how incredible (I think) this will be for the Canadian firearms market /industry
No worries about ridicule. It won't work, as the MDT Skeleton butt stock doesn't actually use a buffer tube. . On these had system rifles, the buffer tube houses critical components (aka. Spring), and it will not function properly without that. . Cool concept stock though.
As per Rick:
Good point I am surprised no-one else brought this up.
Warranty, like all ATRS products is lifetime warranty on manufacturers defects on ATRS manufactured parts to the original owner. NON ATRS made parts will be whatever that manufacturer offers, sorry we have no control on what others make or do.
The fine print. If it is our fault we will fix it or replace it. No hassles.
We do NOT cover shipping costs, insurance or inconvenience. (no-one does and I thought I would be up front with this just in case RobertF is planning to buy 1)
Thanks. Will you be able to service the rifle under warranty or at my cost with spare parts from mentioned manufacturers of parts at a reasonable time frame (within 2 months)? Meaning will you keep an inventory of spare parts for servicing purposes? like bolts, firing pin, springs, pins, hammers, etc?
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- calgary alberta
With continuing to build more rifles we will have a full stock of parts on hand. The orders we have to place to keep up with our needs are fairly massive so I highly doubt that any parts required for service will be a problem.
We have tried to keep as many "wear and tear" parts as generic as possible to avoid the situation of no or low supply from a single supplier.
I think it would be very irresponsible of any manufacturer to not keep a reasonable inventory of replacement parts on hand. One HAS TO expect some warranty issues or just plain parts failure, and to not have spare parts to solve either scenario is just bad business sense.
I hope that answers your question.
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We will be updating the order form this week, still awaiting some pricing details from Fortis.
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- calgary alberta
Frankly had not thought about it, we are struggling to get all of the info on the builds and additional options dealt with, getting the non inhouse made parts coming and still trying to machine the parts we do make. February is not that far off.
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- calgary alberta
In testing the original prototype we saw some 1/2 MOA groups with 175gr Federal GMM ammo and lots of 3/4 to 1 MOA with the American Eagle ammo.
Further testing of the first production rifle saw similar results. Saturday at the range we got quite a few 2 shots touching and the 3rd off by between 1/2 and 3/4 MOA, which considering the the rifle did not function well at all with the 2 mags we brought to use, I find encouraging. Back at the shop the gun ran flawlessly simply with a new P Mag being used, so further testing will be done next weekend.
Function testing a upper and lower that are not yet anodized can be very frustrating, we should have some Beta test units back from anodizing in the next week or 2 so then the fun will really begin.
