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The 223 Remington…

Pros
-Low recoil
-Cheap to shoot
-Good to at least a 1000 yards and will keep up fairly close to a 308 at that distance and likely better in closer.
-Components and ammo are always available
-The creedmoor haters won’t make man-bun comments and call you names.

Cons-
The magnum hunter Fudds will laugh at you for not being as manly as them

Obviously you’d need a rifle setup to shoot heavies at a reasonable speed.
 
Bustercluck said:
The 223 Remington…

Pros
-Low recoil
-Cheap to shoot
-Good to at least a 1000 yards and will keep up fairly close to a 308 at that distance and likely better in closer.
-Components and ammo are always available
-The creedmoor haters won’t make man-bun comments and call you names.

Cons-
The magnum hunter Fudds will laugh at you for not being as manly as them

Obviously you’d need a rifle setup to shoot heavies at a reasonable speed.
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I hear you but based on the spectacular special effects on gophers and coyotes one cannot dismiss the 7 rem mag and 12g shotgun.
 
Anyways… the only reason I started this thread is because I see lots and lots of threads where newer shooters are looking for something cheaper, or lower recoil, or whatever and every thread a 223 shooter pipes up and suggests the 223, but it’s quickly glossed over because the masses think they need a 308, 243, or 6.5 creedmoor to get out and do ok.

The truth is a 223 rem with an 1-8” twist barrel will keep up to lots of other cartridges.

Here’s my data if anyone wants to compare what they’re shooting against mine. The 85.5 Berger going 2850fps with a 7.5” twist. I think you’d need about a 185 Juggernaut in a 308 win to keep up, but you can load 200 or 208s hot to pull away from the 85.5. I just punched my gun details into the hornady 4dof online calculator without changing any of the environmentals or sight height or anything. 10mph crosswind.

https://www.hornady.com/4dof
 

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hoobdydyadad said:
wow its so good time to put it in a bolt action bro
6mm arc is better.
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6mmARC puts you into F/O as far as Fclass goes, so in that case I'd stay with the .223.
However, I am not one who shoots repeaters or PRS , so carry on .
Given the choice between the .223 and the .308 I'll take the .223 any time for the combination of accuracy, economy and recoil..

Cat
 
iron cat said:
6mmARC puts you into F/O as far as Fclass goes, so in that case I'd stay with the .223.
However, I am not one who shoots repeaters or PRS , so carry on .
Cat
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I think you’d struggle to beat a 223 with a 6arc, but who knows what we’re comparing. Rifle setups are never apples to apples.

How are the 85.5s working for you? Have you put them over a chrono yet?
 
Bustercluck said:
I think you’d struggle to beat a 223 with a 6arc, but who knows what we’re comparing. Rifle setups are never apples to apples.

How are the 85.5s working for you? Have you put them over a chrono yet?
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Gave up on the 85.5's and picked up 1,000 95 Match Kings, not gong to try and change a good thing.
Two different classes so I so I'm not worried about beating a 6ARC .
In the case of small 6's anyway, I'd stick with the 6mmBR, as I have does and brass already IF I were to shoot F/O.
Cat
 
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