The mother of all 45 ACP

Tom Morrison said:
In terms of functionality, no one can argue that a mk23 isn’t an exquisite piece of engineering art, but if she was a girl, you would describe her as having a great personality to be honest and charitable. The lines just aren’t there.
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You are right
 
Being a HK I'm sure this is a well engineered and well made gun. However, I think your title is a little over the top, I'm with Harry Callahan and would definitely put a quality 1911 up against this. The HK might equal many 1911's but I question whether it would best the Ed Browns, Wilson Combats etc

Anyway, it's always exciting to get a new gun so Congrats!! :cheers:
 
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sailor723 said:
Funny, when I was starting out I found a 1911 easier to shoot than any of the modern guns I tried. YMMV
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Maybe you re above average:) I think trigger makes a lot of difference as does sight radius when it comes to groups. Not many can shoot to any pistol’s potential. Certainly not me, but I’d bet I’d do better with a mk23 than an LB or EB for a lot less money.
 
RL1 said:
are you still in Montreal? I am heading down there...i would love to try it :)

RL
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I dont go to the club until spring, after the hollidays i am heading to my NH farm, but in the early summer i will spend 6 weeks in Terrebonne.
 
Tom Morrison said:
I’d bet the average shooter would do better with a mk23 than a high end 1911. John M Browning was a genius but modern guns do have their advantages.
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I don’t know about that. I bet the high end 1911 will be more accurate and more comfortable than the Mk.23 but I would trust the HK more if I had to carry one into harm’s way. The HK is a heavy beast and surprisingly flippy for a big, heavy gun.

I find the tighter the tolerance ( high end 1911), the more accurate but less reliable. The rattley 1911s work well for this reason!
 
Still alive said:
The HK is a heavy beast and surprisingly flippy for a big, heavy gun.
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Yeah, I was surprised by that—I'm thinking it's the combination of a fairly large and heavy slide and lightweight frame.

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call2arms said:
I guess you should buy a suppressor and keep it at the NH farm
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I have to buy my firearms each side of the border, if i want to tranfert i permanently, i have to transfert if under the name of my inlaw, he bear both nationality, then he can bring them back to the farm like i did for a revolver and a KAC SR25.

I am keeping a collection up north since i spend 6 months a year splitted between Que and Ont
 
caramel said:
I have to buy my firearms each side of the border, if i want to tranfert i permanently, i have to transfert if under the name of my inlaw, he bear both nationality, then he can bring them back to the farm like i did for a revolver and a KAC SR25.

I am keeping a collection up north since i spend 6 months a year splitted between Que and Ont
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I will likely purchase a suppressor and leave it in Arizona. Take my guns down temporarily and try it out
 
This HK Mk23 looks like a big mother of a pistol.

I've got big mits but don't even like the table leg grip on a Beretta 92 series pistol.

How's this one in that regard?

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Master-G said:
Yeah, I was surprised by that—I'm thinking it's the combination of a fairly large and heavy slide and lightweight frame.
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hmmm that's disappointing...i have handled the Mark23 several times but never shot one..i always assumed they would shoot flat

RL
 
NAA said:
This HK Mk23 looks like a big mother of a pistol.

I've got big mits but don't even like the table leg grip on a Beretta 92 series pistol.

How's this one in that regard?
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From my review from a couple of years ago:

The first things you often hear about the Mark 23 is how big it is—how it’s a “crew-served weapon”. For sure it’s big…but not that big. It’s 9.7” (24.5 cm) long and weighs 43 ounces (1.2 kg). That’s big, but a Smith & Wesson 686 .357 Magnum revolver with a 4” barrel is 9.6” (24.3 cm) long and weighs 40 ounces (1.1 kg), and you don't hear how unmanageable they are. No question, though, it’s large compared to similar semi-auto pistols. Here’s how it looks compared to a Glock 21SF and Beretta 92SF.
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and here’s how they compare from the back—not a whole lot of difference other than overall height.
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I checked a few dimensions on all three pistols and came up with the following:

Grip Circumference (measured immediately below the trigger guard):
• Mark 23: 14.6 cm
• Beretta 92FS: 14 cm
• Glock 21 SF: 14.4 cm

Trigger Reach:
• Mark 23: 7.4 cm
• Beretta 92FS: 7.3 cm
• Glock 21 SF: 7.3 cm

Bottom line: big, yes. But, if you can handle a typical large-frame semi auto you’ll have no issue. I’ve got small hands and can manage—although the DA reach is about as long as I can accommodate.

RL1 said:
hmmm that's disappointing...i have handled the Mark23 several times but never shot one..i always assumed they would shoot flat
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It's not objectionable when shooting, I've found.

All this reminiscing about the Mk23 has me hankering for one again! :)
 
Tom Morrison said:
I’d bet the average shooter would do better with a mk23 than a high end 1911. John M Browning was a genius but modern guns do have their advantages.
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I disagree.. I had a HK USP and that was a brick in my hand. If the MK23 is as big as people say it is. It wouldn't be comfy in many people hands. So I cannot see how I could shoot that better than a 1911?
 
OkayShooter said:
I disagree.. I had a HK USP and that was a brick in my hand. If the MK23 is as big as people say it is. It wouldn't be comfy in many people hands. So I cannot see how I could shoot that better than a 1911?
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A pistol does not necessarily have to be comfortable to hold to shoot well, as long as the shooter can work the controls and maintain a proper grip.
 
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