The NEW KING of Scout Rifles

I've carried my Ruger scout in some of the most rugged country, no issues here.

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Great pic of a nice rifle in some beautiful but rugged sheep country! :)
 
I like the look of the mags but practically do prefer floor plates when in such conditions and heights. Wont dig into your back and can carry it nicely by one hand from the floor plate area with a nice even balance.

Ive brought this one to 7000 feet.


Scouting MT. Stoyoma with my HUSQVARNA FN 98 8x57JS being used as bear protection!
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I like the look of the mags but practically do prefer floor plates when in such conditions and heights. Wont dig into your back and can carry it nicely by one hand from the floor plate area with a nice even balance.

Ive brought this one to 7000 feet.


Scouting MT. Stoyoma with my HUSQVARNA FN 98 8x57JS being used as bear protection!
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Nice pic!

I think many of us enjoy hinged floorplates on standard hunting rifles, but the rifle presented on this thread isn't intended to be a standard hunting rifle. There are plenty of options for rifles with hinged floorplates available.

However, much of the whimpering about the hardship of using a rifle with such a magazine on this thread is without much merit. it's just yapping.....While not as common anymore, Lee Enfields with 10 round magazines have been packed all over Canada without fuss. The Jungle Carbine was a particular favorite among many hunters and still is. Winchester 1895 rifles also have protruding magazines, and they too have been used from sheep mountains to swamps. Now we have more modern rifles available with similar set ups. It's just a different system than floorplates, that's all it is, really.
 
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However, much of the whimpering about the hardship of using a rifle with such a magazine on this thread is without much merit. it's just yapping...

Listen to all those "whimpering" peasants "yapping" about preferring a floorplate to a well hung boxy magazine... pathetic.
 
Listen to all those "whimpering" peasants "yapping" about preferring a floorplate to a well hung boxy magazine... pathetic.

;)Can't really blame the dog for 'yapping'. I have a very quiet Yellow Lab, but I'm sure if she saw me in possession of a 'firearm' that looked like that, ;)she'd start 'yapping' also. Life is too short to have an ugly gun:).
 
There are a number of Scout Scope options on the market these days. The one in the Robar videos seem to be a Leupold.

I think if I was going to go with a scout scope set up, I would pick the Leupold VX-R 1.5-5x33. It has a decent size objective lens, up to 5x magnification and a red dot center for quick acquisition of targets at moderate ranges.

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Here is a pic of Cooper with his 'Lion Scout" chambered in 350 Magnum. Probably a good choice in cartridges for the era and what he wanted to accomplish in regards to rifle specifications. although unlikely to be a candidate these days. He used a ZKK 601 action to build the rifle.

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2 problems with using those larger cartridges in this style of rifle- They won't fit, and ammo availability.

People often are worried about ammo availability. Due to the 375 Ruger being so much more popular than either 375 RUM and 378 WBY, 375 Ruger ammunition is easier to come by.

I don't think the availability of factory ammo is much of a factor. Anyone who actually shoots these rifles on a regular basis handloads, and a couple of hundred pieces of brass will last quite some time. I think I had 500 pieces of Ultra brass, but I've culled a few.
 
However, much of the whimpering about the hardship of using a rifle with such a magazine on this thread is without much merit. it's just yapping.....While not as common anymore, Lee Enfields with 10 round magazines have been packed all over Canada without fuss. The Jungle Carbine was a particular favorite among many hunters and still is. Winchester 1895 rifles also have protruding magazines, and they too have been used from sheep mountains to swamps. Now we have more modern rifles available with similar set ups. It's just a different system than floorplates, that's all it is, really.

There's a reason why 5 round mags are popular for LE rifles. I own 2 for mine.

Despite all the defense for these large capacity mags, I still haven't seen any valid PRACTICAL reasons to use one for everyday SPORTING hunting.
 
There's a reason why 5 round mags are popular for LE rifles. I own 2 for mine.

Despite all the defense for these large capacity mags, I still haven't seen any valid PRACTICAL reasons to use one for everyday SPORTING hunting.

I can think of a couple. Carrying more ammo in the rifle makes us feel better. The 3 round capacity of the .375 M-70 during my buffalo hunt proved totally insufficient, but the additional two rounds in the .500 was about right; note to self - a longer magazine is lighter than a second rifle. A long magazine can facilitate the fast shooting required during a cull hunt, although granted, culling has little to do with sport. Another might be that a rifle equipped with a standard length AR/AK magazine provides a nifty mono-pod when shooting from prone. A 5 round magazine came with my #4 Churchill sporter, but it was much easier to swap out magazines with the standard 10 round box. And last but not least, some folks just like the look of a protruding magazine ahead of the trigger guard. My CZ-527 provides that look, and but only holds 5 rounds.

The down side of longer magazines is that they can interfere with carrying the rifle at the balance, some folks don't like the look of them, and you get out of the habit of reloading the rifle against the clock . . . such as when your wounded buffalo is moving away at a high rate of speed.
 
There's a reason why 5 round mags are popular for LE rifles. I own 2 for mine.


I think they are mostly popular in provinces with magazine capacity restrictions for hunting, same as 5 round Garand clips. I've seen hundreds of SMLE rifles in BC and virtually all of them are used with the standard 10 round magazines. I'm sure I've seen a couple of 5 round mags but they aren't common in comparison.



Despite all the defense for these large capacity mags, I still haven't seen any valid PRACTICAL reasons to use one for everyday SPORTING hunting.

When did a 5 round magazine become "high capacity?" Laugh2
 
I don't think the availability of factory ammo is much of a factor. Anyone who actually shoots these rifles on a regular basis handloads, and a couple of hundred pieces of brass will last quite some time. I think I had 500 pieces of Ultra brass, but I've culled a few.

I agree with you of course, but there has been much yapping and whimpering about ammunition availability here on CGN.
 
^ True , pretty much every LE I've ever seen out hunting , mine included , has had a 10 round mag in it . I have a five rounder , but it rarely gets used , somehow it doesn't look right . To be honest though , I don't remove the mag from my LE very often , it's more of an extended mag for me .
Mind you , the LE wasn't designed for rapid magazine changes . As I said above , I don't have a problem with higher capacity detachable mags , I just tend to lose them lol . I'm currently building a 358W on a 98 Mauser and I'm looking at putting an extended mag on it , mostly because I like the look of the old Rigby extended mags , and a few more rounds never hurt .
 
Here is a pic of Cooper with his 'Lion Scout" chambered in 350 Magnum. Probably a good choice in cartridges for the era and what he wanted to accomplish in regards to rifle specifications. although unlikely to be a candidate these days. He used a ZKK 601 action to build the rifle.

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Actually , this was my inspiration for my 358 . I won't be using an extended eye relief scope , tried it , not my thing , but it will have good iron sights ( aperture ) and a quick detachable low power variable scope on it . While the 358 isn't as powerful as the 375 Ruger at the beginning of this thread , it'll do anything I need . And if I'm honest with myself , I don't tolerate heavy recoil well and I know I'll shoot the 358 more effectively .
 
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