The next obsolete cartridge...

I don't know how long it's been since a north american rifle manufacturer made a rifle in .303brit...or 8mm mauser (I know remington made their "classic" in 8mm last year), but I don't see them fading away.
There are far too many pissy little newbie cartridges coming out that serve no purpose.....17hmr and hm2....bullet is too light and only good for deer mice or black flys. The .204 ruger fits the same bill.
I hope this year we see and hear the end of the Lazzeroni crap.......
We need something new, in the bottle neck variety, something slightly smaller than the .50bmg and holds 150g-175g of powder. Mabey a .425 with a super high BC 500g BTHP........:) Not sure what the parent cartridge should be though.......
 
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I almost missed the .308 Win, because the 06 is better and older. The 8mm Mauser beats it hands down when properly handloaded and handles heavy bullets way better. My dad calls the .308 Win :mad: "a dead dog ":( . And when he said that he also reminded me that " there's nothing wrong with that 06 ":D
 
Because bolt action guys are SO DAMN set in their ways, anything that has been around for 60 or 80 years will be around for another 60 or 80.

Anything that was military will last forever, including 8x57mm and .303 British.

On the other hand, anything that Remington comes out with will very soon find a severe lack of support. Anyone remember the 5mm Rem? How about the E-tronics electric primer system? I absolutely will not buy ANY Rem product that hasn't been out for 10 years, simply because they continually bring out what appears to be a good idea, then drop it two years later.
FWIW, I actually like the short mag idea, but hearing the Rem is already dropping it just confirms my feelings.
 
my vote goes for either the 284 Win or 300 H&H Magnum


both great cartridges, but that doesnt mean much these days:rolleyes:
 
I gotta .264Mag that will soon be very hard to get factory ammo for .....................



but my vote goes to the 450Marlin.



SC.......................
 
There was just a very similar article in Rifle Shooter by Jon Sundra!
The only cartridges that will dissapear or become obsolete are the ones that no longer make money or create business for the manufacturers.
The marketplace will determine which of the calibers are history.
P.S. the WSMs have outsold all other standard and magnum calibers for the last three years.
Sadly the RSAUM's are already history.
The WSSM's are not going anywhere... they are a staple in the Browning/Winchester lineup.
 
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I just went to the gun room and sure enough my old .30-30, .32 Win Special and .38-55 were as dead as door nails. My .303 Savage only had a gasp left and she passed on. I guess I will order a new fangdangled .270 and see if I can start killing deer again...... Seriously though I can't see the likes of the short mags holding on. Be it Winchester or Remington. Lets be thankful that the industry still develops and produces new cartridges and chamberings. If they didn't more than a few cartridges would be on the extinct list as the industry and market would die.
cheers Darryl
 
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The new ammo from hornady will breath new life into the tube fed levers... the 30-30 will benefit from this for sure.
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Nothing wrong with the old life IMO, but, just for interest sake, I emailed Hornady and asked when we handloaders could expect these bullets.
They said NOT Likely .....maybe....
and then metioned maybe 2007-8... :(

They also said they had a a billion or so requests..... So maybe you guys could ask them some more?:D :D :)

webmaster@hornady.com


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No self respecting ammo maker is going to cut his own throat by offering components on any new technology ammo.:(
Not too many 30-30 owners are not going to buy a few boxes of the new soft spitzers... most of them are hunters not reloaders... and Hornady knows this all too well.;)
 
Hmmmm...the Savage rounds didn't get mentioned as much as I thought, except dosing who was egging on SC again.

I read Square A is making factory loaded rounds soon in 303 Savage and I bet they sell well enough to keep making a run every year now due to the sudden 1899 explosion.
 
funny-the commercial survival of a particular cartride seems to be more based on the fickle ''popularity'' of so called gun experts writing articles for magazines than actual ballistics.The 30-06 ,303,30-30 , 6.5 swede,and the humble 22lr have been taking their fair share of game for about 100 years-and in the words of Mark Twain ''rumours of my death have been greatly exaggerated ''.I suggest while it is certainly true ''new'' cartridges may be ballistically superior-availability is possably even more a factor.I also wonder if more people think aquiring a new rifle or cartridge will somehow make up for lack of target practice or hunting skills.
 
The SAUMs were still born, the 17 Mach 2 is unnecessary after the 17HMR and the .223 WSSM and .243 WSSM are already on the way out, at least here in Australia.
Dealers are selling NEW Browning A-bolts in WSSM cartridges for less than $700, normally a $1200 rifle.:(
The WSMs have a reasonably long life ahead of them, with the exception of the .325, and perhaps the 7mm.
Much as I prefer the 6.5x55 and 7x57 to the 260 Rem and 7mm-08, the 2 .308 based rounds, especially the 7-08, will not die an easy death, because they're short action alternatives to the older rounds.
"Short action" does seem to be the catch cry of the day and, much as I think that it's overated, it seems to sell rifles.
Besides, the 7mm-08 already has a solid following of it's own and if Tod has his way the 260 Rem will soon follow it.:p
And for those who suggest the 270 WSM will replace the 270 Win, no offense, but it's time to change your meds...you're beginning to hallucinate!::eek: :D
 
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