the official "next M305 shipment arrival" thread
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Excellent news.
P0WERWAGON
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hay_ride said:
after th vz58 happening, do you actually expect him to guess? last time a lynch mod ran after him because he was wrong on the date. some a####### even threatened to sue him because he didn't get his vz when he was told.
me thinks john is just biting his lip dying to say when but he won't, don't blame him one bit!!
any HP9's coming wiht the M305's?
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- Central Sask
im gonna check with lever arms and see if they still have them in stock. im tired of waiting on marstar and im willing to spend almost double. cheaper doesnt mean anything when it doesnt exist
Whether or not you wish to wait is entirely up to you. We understand (and for reasons explained below also share) your frustration with regards to delays experienced in receiving our long-awaited shipments.
We certainly don't want to wait: our shipments are bought, paid for, and have for reasons not of our own making and utterly beyond our control been delayed. This is why we won't accept deposits or advance payments on products of this type: we know first hand how frustrating waiting for something we've already paid for can be and don't want to expose our clients to the same inconvenience.
Here's why we don't want to supply even a rough ETA:
- The current delays experienced with this shipment were entirely unforeseen.
- Mr. Murphy (ie. 'Murphy's Laws') is alive, well, and apparently watching for any 'guesstimate' on when our shipments will arrive (judging by past experience therewith).
- Believe it or not, we want these shipments to arrive even more than you do. That's easy to prove: they were paid for long before the original 'promised delivery date' given to us by the supplier. We don't want our substantial investment tied up any longer than necessary.
- We've learned that even when an ETA is given in response to "pretty please/we won't hold you to it/promise not to tell/grain of salt/what's your best outhouse totally rough guess?" somebody (and not necessarily the original author of the question) will on Monday afternoon at 4:01pm invariably start whining/whimpering/moaning/flaming/screaming "they lied/misleading/promised/guaranteed/swore arrival by Monday!!!" Blame it on a vocal minority if you like but because of this we don't consider attempting to answer that question worth the risk.
Here's what I can say: yes, the shipments are on their way. We've been working non-stop on getting things moving. All our paperwork is and has been in place all along. As for what's coming in, precise quantities are by necessity a trade secret but there will be lots of M-14S rifles, 870-type shotguns, and piles of handguns. We've had our ear to the ground for a long time, have heard what our clients have to say, and have significant quantities of what you want on the way.
I can assure you we're working tirelessly to bring what you want to market at fair prices.
Hope this helps,
- Peter
We certainly don't want to wait: our shipments are bought, paid for, and have for reasons not of our own making and utterly beyond our control been delayed. This is why we won't accept deposits or advance payments on products of this type: we know first hand how frustrating waiting for something we've already paid for can be and don't want to expose our clients to the same inconvenience.
Here's why we don't want to supply even a rough ETA:
- The current delays experienced with this shipment were entirely unforeseen.
- Mr. Murphy (ie. 'Murphy's Laws') is alive, well, and apparently watching for any 'guesstimate' on when our shipments will arrive (judging by past experience therewith).
- Believe it or not, we want these shipments to arrive even more than you do. That's easy to prove: they were paid for long before the original 'promised delivery date' given to us by the supplier. We don't want our substantial investment tied up any longer than necessary.
- We've learned that even when an ETA is given in response to "pretty please/we won't hold you to it/promise not to tell/grain of salt/what's your best outhouse totally rough guess?" somebody (and not necessarily the original author of the question) will on Monday afternoon at 4:01pm invariably start whining/whimpering/moaning/flaming/screaming "they lied/misleading/promised/guaranteed/swore arrival by Monday!!!" Blame it on a vocal minority if you like but because of this we don't consider attempting to answer that question worth the risk.
Here's what I can say: yes, the shipments are on their way. We've been working non-stop on getting things moving. All our paperwork is and has been in place all along. As for what's coming in, precise quantities are by necessity a trade secret but there will be lots of M-14S rifles, 870-type shotguns, and piles of handguns. We've had our ear to the ground for a long time, have heard what our clients have to say, and have significant quantities of what you want on the way.
I can assure you we're working tirelessly to bring what you want to market at fair prices.
Hope this helps,
- Peter
P0WERWAGON
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- burnaby BC كافر
Peter said:
i'm in my happy place Peter said:
I think (hope) most of us appreciate the difficulty and hassle of what you are doing. We're just eager to see the product, I think.
We know you guys are doing everything you can and you can count on plenty of us rewarding your hard work with our hard-earned dollars! BTW, are the rumours of the M-305's being no longer produced true, to the best of your knowledge?
thanks Peter
we appreciate the update and I think your reasonings for not taking deposits are reasonable and honest. I got a grand burnin a hole in my pocket..... I'll let it burn a while longer, the slow boat from china is well worth waiting for
we appreciate the update and I think your reasonings for not taking deposits are reasonable and honest. I got a grand burnin a hole in my pocket..... I'll let it burn a while longer, the slow boat from china is well worth waiting for
Thanks for the positive messages. The best way to show your support for $399.00 M-14S rifles is by buying one when they come in - or, as Hungry and other '14ers (who are not affiliated with Marstar in any way) will say:
"Don't buy a $399 M-14. Buy TWO!"
The above quote is actually very good advice: how many of us wish we'd stocked up on $75 "full wood" Enfields, $199 Garands, etc.? I have mine and am seriously considering getting another.
As for rumours the M-14S is no longer being produced, I won't speculate on future availability - much as someone else in my position might be tempted to create a little 'buyer panic' to boost sales I'd rather not. These will however definitely not be around forever especially at our advertised price (which hasn't changed in around five years).
Keep the following in mind:
- The Chinese won't tool up a plant to produce something unless they receive a minimum order of 5,000 units to justify the cost of configuring the machinery to fill the order.
- Chinese-made firearms are currently not importable into the United States due to a trade embargo. The world's largest civilian market for semi-auto M-14 and AR-15 type rifles is therefore closed to them.
- Say what you want but the reality is sinking money into 5,000 units of one rifle for the Canadian market (we're talking 'cash and carry') would result in waiting much, much longer than is acceptable for a return on one's investment.
- Your other choice for an M-14 type rifle is $1,800.00+. Opinions about the M1A vs. the M-14S have already been expressed elsewhere in this thread.
- Only one Canadian company offers the M-14S for $399.00. Yes, we are a 'for profit' business but no, we did not 'offer them for $200.00 less than the competition and pocket an extra $200.00 per rifle.' We felt nothing beats offering a fair price and a written warranty: the amount of publicity we received as a result is proof there is method to our madness
As for the anticipated arrival of our shipments, I wouldn't worry about missing it if you're a regular on this site and on ours. News will travel fast once we've received our Norinco shipment.
Feel free to give us a call with your enquiries and may you have a safe and fun shooting season.
- Peter
"Don't buy a $399 M-14. Buy TWO!"
The above quote is actually very good advice: how many of us wish we'd stocked up on $75 "full wood" Enfields, $199 Garands, etc.? I have mine and am seriously considering getting another.
As for rumours the M-14S is no longer being produced, I won't speculate on future availability - much as someone else in my position might be tempted to create a little 'buyer panic' to boost sales I'd rather not. These will however definitely not be around forever especially at our advertised price (which hasn't changed in around five years).
Keep the following in mind:
- The Chinese won't tool up a plant to produce something unless they receive a minimum order of 5,000 units to justify the cost of configuring the machinery to fill the order.
- Chinese-made firearms are currently not importable into the United States due to a trade embargo. The world's largest civilian market for semi-auto M-14 and AR-15 type rifles is therefore closed to them.
- Say what you want but the reality is sinking money into 5,000 units of one rifle for the Canadian market (we're talking 'cash and carry') would result in waiting much, much longer than is acceptable for a return on one's investment.
- Your other choice for an M-14 type rifle is $1,800.00+. Opinions about the M1A vs. the M-14S have already been expressed elsewhere in this thread.
- Only one Canadian company offers the M-14S for $399.00. Yes, we are a 'for profit' business but no, we did not 'offer them for $200.00 less than the competition and pocket an extra $200.00 per rifle.' We felt nothing beats offering a fair price and a written warranty: the amount of publicity we received as a result is proof there is method to our madness
As for the anticipated arrival of our shipments, I wouldn't worry about missing it if you're a regular on this site and on ours. News will travel fast once we've received our Norinco shipment.
Feel free to give us a call with your enquiries and may you have a safe and fun shooting season.
- Peter
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is there any way you can vaguely infer the rough count of M14's. It was stated that marstar bought all the remaining rifles. Is this number in the low 100's or 1000's? Just curious for those of us that will have to gather funds to purchase an M14 and might not be able to get one right away. Dont want to save and have all the money ready and find that all the rifles are sold out in 1 day like U2 tickets.
thanks for the honesty in your replies.
LFOD
thanks for the honesty in your replies.
LFOD
If you're worried about the supply of M-14S rifles - which I can confirm is finite and can ascertain the fact we've bought what's left - I'd advise buying one sooner rather than later.
Look at it this way: which would suck more, buying 1 shipment too early or waiting 1 shipment too many? Unless you're cutting into your grocery budget to buy one I recommend getting a rifle while the getting's good. Given how eager people here are to get in on our incoming shipment (refer to this thread and elsewhere) they're bound to be a hot seller.
What I can tell you is we're bringing in generous quantities of rifles. I can't say with any certainty whether there will be enough for everyone or how long our shipment will last. Our shipments are coming in by the container load (including many different models) but that's no guarantee of availibility. I definitely cannot guarantee when the shipment after this one will arrive.
Let me put it this way: I'm buying myself an(other) M-14S when they come in (and I'm not the only staff member who will be doing so).
Hope this helps,
- Peter
Look at it this way: which would suck more, buying 1 shipment too early or waiting 1 shipment too many? Unless you're cutting into your grocery budget to buy one I recommend getting a rifle while the getting's good. Given how eager people here are to get in on our incoming shipment (refer to this thread and elsewhere) they're bound to be a hot seller.
What I can tell you is we're bringing in generous quantities of rifles. I can't say with any certainty whether there will be enough for everyone or how long our shipment will last. Our shipments are coming in by the container load (including many different models) but that's no guarantee of availibility. I definitely cannot guarantee when the shipment after this one will arrive.
Let me put it this way: I'm buying myself an(other) M-14S when they come in (and I'm not the only staff member who will be doing so).
Hope this helps,
- Peter
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