The T97 Thread!

drift1122 said:
Do ppl have that hard of time changing mags? With practice you can hit that little button release pretty quickly.
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I've never had a problem, and chuckle at those who do. I'm right handed. I simply keep my left hand on the lower hand guard (while holding the rifle into my shoulder), tilt the rifle to the left, and with my right hand, I can manipulate the mag release button, and pull the mag out at the same time. Takes seconds, and feels very natural.

I don't understand those on YouTube who try to awkwardly wrap their arm around and look like complete tools trying to take their mags out. Remember, KISS...
 
^hmm don't think I've tried it that way. Been using the "awkward hand wrap-around" technique with my left hand while keep my right hand on the pistol grip. I've gotten pretty good at it though.
 
st1264 said:
Just read about 20 pages and I have a question:

Do the new rifles at the store right now still have the issues that I've read about or have they been fixed? This looks like a rifle you have to alter to run properly, unless something has changed.
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Current stock are not "new rifles". The ones here in the country have no consistency in the mag well and even the position of the mag release. Some are lower than others by about 2 mm.
If you want to get something that works , get the hk243 when it shows up and don't waste your money on this junk.
 
Canada tail said:
Current stock are not "new rifles". The ones here in the country have no consistency in the mag well and even the position of the mag release. Some are lower than others by about 2 mm.
If you want to get something that works , get the hk243 when it shows up and don't waste your money on this junk.
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An affront to my honor good sir! My type 97 is the most reliable and accurate firearm I own.
 
Hey guys! I finally ordered my T97! Looking to buy a case of ammo now and just had a quick question:

has anyone fired steel case ammo? Any issues?
 
Bi Metal jackets will wear barrels faster if you shooting in volume with a hot barrel. The difference saved in ammo cost most often offsets that. The problem with some DI guns and steel cases are the polymer or lacquer coatings that gum up in hot cambers (don't leave one sitting in a hot chamber). Some steel cased ammo can be a little harder on extractors or ejectors based on design and often will show flaws in heat treating of those smaller parts if or when they break.

SquidMeister said:
Steel case may wear out your barrel faster (correct me if I'm wrong) but the price point is good there.
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The price is good for sure, but the only time I've ever bought it was in Montana or Idaho (can't remember which) for $5 per 20 box. Havnt come across it in Any of my local stores. But I'm sure the price even here in Canada is hard to pass on.

There's lots of people on the EE selling Norinco white and yellow box in bulk. I've found that to be a reliable cartridge too and it's brass cased and non corrosive. So depending on what price point your getting the Tula at it might be worth a look.
 
Tulammo is $390 shipped per 1000 rounds right now.

They may be bimetal jacket but there is a pretty thick layer of copper, I cant imagine rifling ever touching steel.

Also never had an issue with any sticking in my chamber.
 
Yeah, as far as I can tell the lacquer would/could gum things up if left to sit it a warm chamber. As long as the bullet it self is coated in copper it shouldnt wear the barrel down, no?
 
TimSwayne said:
[...] As long as the bullet it self is coated in copper it shouldnt wear the barrel down, no?
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A gunsmith told me that yes, it still wears the barrel as the core of the projectile is not as ductile as lead, instead of having a copper jacket pushing against soft lead as it gets deformed when taking the shape of the rifling, you get a copper jacket sandwiched between the rifling and a non-deformable core, putting more pressure on the rifling as the jacket is compressed.

I have no idea if he's right, but it does sound reasonable and he does know more about guns than me :)
 
Tigerzclaw said:
A gunsmith told me that yes, it still wears the barrel as the core of the projectile is not as ductile as lead, instead of having a copper jacket pushing against soft lead as it gets deformed when taking the shape of the rifling, you get a copper jacket sandwiched between the rifling and a non-deformable core, putting more pressure on the rifling as the jacket is compressed.

I have no idea if he's right, but it does sound reasonable and he does know more about guns than me :)
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Mehh the amount of wear from sandwiched copper on fairly hard steel is going to be small. Probably negligible in reality because it's not like it's even steel core. The steel part of the jacket is pushed into the lead core... If... IF there is actually enough deformation to effect it.

Maybe I'd be concerned with a .5 moa match barrel... From a military accuracy $1000 rifle I'll shoot the cheap ammo all day.
 
Hey guys, so my T97 that I just took out ejects forwards about 5-10 yards. Is this a new thing, cuz it seems like its lefty friendly, or am I out to lunch?
 
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