The TAVOR
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Ummmm....this is kinda "up in the air"....Come shoot my G22 without the stock in place, see what happens (*hint: Somethings going to fly out the back and become a permanent part of your forehead)
Last time I checked the RCMP guys that determined the classification were in fact A: Cops, and B: Prone to making classifications based on anything but facts (See "GSG-5")
You say to "Keep his inflammatory remarks to himself", yet then immediately follow with this gem: "Now run along upstairs, your mom is calling you"
Me thinks someone should be carefull not to shatter his glass house......
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Ahhhh...but IS it?
I know what the CFC says....but if it prohibited, that would put it into the same catagory as grenades, C4, switchblades and Uzi's.....yet everyone I know still has theirs....and many have never gotten a reg. cert from the CFC for their guns. You'd think that if they were truly prohib, the owners would know about it...yet nobody is knocking on the doors.
Interesting.....
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^^^Sure you can own one...great. But I can't sell it.....so is it really mine to do with as I see fit? And further to this: I own one, why can't anybody else? I have no specuial statuse, 12(x), whatever. Why can't anyone with the same level lic. as me own one? Sorry, they can't have it both ways, although that's what they are trying to pull. They have created a new class of firearms...one that is non-res. to some, and prohib to others. I can transfer a 12(2) to another 12(2) holder, 12(3) to another 12(3) holder, but I can't transfer a friggin .22 to ANYONE? Either prohib it and grandfather owners, or revert back to the original non-rest. status and let anyone own one. Only in Canada........
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If you're uncomfortable with the situation you're in and disagree with the Government's approach to it you have a very simple way to appease your conscience: turn in your prohibited device. I'm sure they would be more than happy to take it from you and you wouldn't risk drawing attention to an issue that can only lead to more confiscations.
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^^^or lead to positive change. Far easier to be a good little sheep and keep our heads down in hopes we don't draw attention from the big bad government and they take our toys away...right newbie?
I bet you're the kinda guy that loads your (trigger-locked and cased) rifles into your car in your closed garage to not upset the neighbours....right?
Oooooh! We better not try to get them to de-restrict the AR or allow standard cap mags either! We might upset them and things will get wooooorrrrrsssse!!!! Dont want to draw attention!!!!
Holy cow....and we wonder why we are losing this battle.....some people need to grow a set.
I bet you're the kinda guy that loads your (trigger-locked and cased) rifles into your car in your closed garage to not upset the neighbours....right?
Oooooh! We better not try to get them to de-restrict the AR or allow standard cap mags either! We might upset them and things will get wooooorrrrrsssse!!!! Dont want to draw attention!!!!
Holy cow....and we wonder why we are losing this battle.....some people need to grow a set.
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Wouldn't loading a trigger locked rifle be really dangerous?
The G22 situation is ridiculous. I suspect that the situation is in a state of limbo pending a court ruling. The powers that be have determined that the stock is a prohibited device, but have taken no action, apart from freezing registration applications and transfers. I suspect that if the situation ever gets to court, a judge could easily rule that the intent of the law was to prohibit aftermarket stocks. The G22 obviouslydoes not have an aftermarket stock, having been manufactured in that configuration, so the prohibition should not apply.
The G22 situation is ridiculous. I suspect that the situation is in a state of limbo pending a court ruling. The powers that be have determined that the stock is a prohibited device, but have taken no action, apart from freezing registration applications and transfers. I suspect that if the situation ever gets to court, a judge could easily rule that the intent of the law was to prohibit aftermarket stocks. The G22 obviouslydoes not have an aftermarket stock, having been manufactured in that configuration, so the prohibition should not apply.
Hey, I think the GSG-5 thing was a bad call too, but the inspectors went down to SHOT and were shown a (Non firing) model, told that there was no way that they could open up a working model to check out the guts and see what was what and therefore had no "Reasonable and Probable Grounds" to believe that it was *not* an MP-5 variant. Bad call on the Manufacturer's part to run their mouths off about how similar their (then) vapourware design was to the MP-5. Hey, it sold them a lot of units in the US I suppose, but if the inspectors had been able to see a real one and compared instead of having nothing but promo material.... Maybe things would have been different. Who's to know?
PS - all the above information is summarized from the monster GSG-5 thread that was on the rimfire section.
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^^^ Yup. AFAIK the original importer has been fighting tooth and nail with the RCMP, and they don't want to budge. Like all things firearms related, "Don't ask us why, and don't you DARE question us. It IS because we SAY it is!!"
Just looking at the Tavor. It is used by the IDF in the select fire version. The semi-automatic version is non-restricted.
The AR-15 in select fire version is used by the military. The semi-automatic version is not non-restricted. Well it was ok for hunting etc until the different classes of firearms was forced upon us.
Why is one rifle is ok and the other is not?
The AR-15 in select fire version is used by the military. The semi-automatic version is not non-restricted. Well it was ok for hunting etc until the different classes of firearms was forced upon us.
Why is one rifle is ok and the other is not?
