There are quite a few quick sales of k31, Swiss flu is getting worse
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They have been one of the best deals on the surplus market.
Accuracy? After load development I managed one hole 5 shot groups at 50 meters, which is amazing considering open sights and my aging eye sight.
I own two walnut stocked K31s in new condition with serial number matching bayonets, and they will stay with me for a while.
Accuracy? After load development I managed one hole 5 shot groups at 50 meters, which is amazing considering open sights and my aging eye sight.
I own two walnut stocked K31s in new condition with serial number matching bayonets, and they will stay with me for a while.
Same happened to the Swedish Mausers, try to find a good one in original condition.
I am happy to own a good one, bought it in Zürich Switzerland nearly 40 years ago.
Carl Gustaf M96, 1917 with a (looks like) French walnut stock, a fantastic rifle.
I am happy to own a good one, bought it in Zürich Switzerland nearly 40 years ago.
Carl Gustaf M96, 1917 with a (looks like) French walnut stock, a fantastic rifle.
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Even at 400 they are a better gun accuracy wise than anything out there. At the last Chilliwack show they had private models with diopters going for $1500...
The market is catching on...and so is anyone at the range when they see my targets
The market is catching on...and so is anyone at the range when they see my targets
Part of the reason these shoot so well is we just happen to have some of the best Military grade ammunition ever made, that these rifle are sighted in to use, at fairly reasonable prices. I have a feeling that once ammo starts to dry up these will start popping up on the EE at lower prices again.
I have mine and love it. It was bottom of the barrel of the batch CSC brought in about two years ago, and it still is in very nice condition with a near perfect bore. stock is a little beat up and a few light spots of rust but overall far above average for a used milsurp. Would like to track down a really nice walnut stocked one as well.
I have mine and love it. It was bottom of the barrel of the batch CSC brought in about two years ago, and it still is in very nice condition with a near perfect bore. stock is a little beat up and a few light spots of rust but overall far above average for a used milsurp. Would like to track down a really nice walnut stocked one as well.
While the GP11 is beautiful stuff, the K31 performs exceptionally well with handloads and commercial ammo (I've only tried the Prvi Partizan stuff). 7.5×55 Swiss was one of the first rounds I loaded with dies -- everything before that was with Lee Loaders -- and as a total noob to die set up and press use was able to make some damn accurate ammo. I credit the rifle with that!
I think the K31's will hold their value. There is some trope that gets repeated all of the time about the K31 -- something along the lines of "if you had to make it today for the commercial market with the same metallurgy, quality, and fit and finish, it would be a $2000 gun". I think its quality will keep the prices stable over time.
Does the Swiss flu extend to Schmidt-Rubins? I see a lot of K31's at the range but the only Schmidt-Rubins I've seen there are mine. Just wondering how much interest there is in the K31's ancestors.
I have a 1911 Carbine through which I can shoot GP11 or modern commercial 7.5×55 Swiss (Prvi Partizan is the only stuff I've tried). As far as I can tell with my admittedly limited skills, it shoots similarly to the K31.
I also have a Model 1889 through which I only shoot handloads with cast bullets. The brass is trimmed down to 53.5mm and I load with 30-40 Krag cast bullet data. The rile is heavy and the load is light so it's very easy to shoot. Even with this light load the 1889 pings the gong at 200 yards with authority.
Very entertaining rifles. But I have to admit that they are always at the top of my "I really should sell those and try something new" list. They are always on that list but I just cannot bring myself to selling them.
Maybe it's the memories. The Model 1889 was the first rifle that I snuck past the wife while she was in the store with me. It's easy to sneak things into the house and then later claim "Oh, that? Had it for years!" But sneaking something out the door of the store and into the car while your wife is with you is a whole other level.
And when buying the 1911, the sales guy and I spent a lot of time looking the thing over -- he'd never handled one before. I asked if I could take the bolt out and inspect it -- he said "sure". I quickly took the bolt apart and spread the pieces out on the counter. I then looked at my phone and said "Whoa! Look at the time! Gotta go!" and made to walk away. The look in the sales guy's face was priceless: looked at me, looked at the parts, looked at me again and literally went pale. I revealed the joke and we spent time playing with assembling and disassembling the bolt. When we took the buttplate off and found the little ID card from 1943 in the thing, the sales guy just about wet himself.
But I really should sell them to make space for something new and without and character or history or backstory. Yup. Really should.
Humph.
I have a 1911 Carbine through which I can shoot GP11 or modern commercial 7.5×55 Swiss (Prvi Partizan is the only stuff I've tried). As far as I can tell with my admittedly limited skills, it shoots similarly to the K31.
I also have a Model 1889 through which I only shoot handloads with cast bullets. The brass is trimmed down to 53.5mm and I load with 30-40 Krag cast bullet data. The rile is heavy and the load is light so it's very easy to shoot. Even with this light load the 1889 pings the gong at 200 yards with authority.
Very entertaining rifles. But I have to admit that they are always at the top of my "I really should sell those and try something new" list. They are always on that list but I just cannot bring myself to selling them.
Maybe it's the memories. The Model 1889 was the first rifle that I snuck past the wife while she was in the store with me. It's easy to sneak things into the house and then later claim "Oh, that? Had it for years!" But sneaking something out the door of the store and into the car while your wife is with you is a whole other level.
And when buying the 1911, the sales guy and I spent a lot of time looking the thing over -- he'd never handled one before. I asked if I could take the bolt out and inspect it -- he said "sure". I quickly took the bolt apart and spread the pieces out on the counter. I then looked at my phone and said "Whoa! Look at the time! Gotta go!" and made to walk away. The look in the sales guy's face was priceless: looked at me, looked at the parts, looked at me again and literally went pale. I revealed the joke and we spent time playing with assembling and disassembling the bolt. When we took the buttplate off and found the little ID card from 1943 in the thing, the sales guy just about wet himself.
But I really should sell them to make space for something new and without and character or history or backstory. Yup. Really should.
Humph.
I have a K11, a four-figure serial number that tells me that it was a conversion from a 1900 model rifle. In spite of the shorter than K31 sight base, and my tired eyeballs, it's an easy 4cm shooter all day long with GP11. Sadly, now there is none in the yUK, I'm having to share the reloading with my 1954 K31, not that THAT is too much of a chore. Both were bought the same week back in 1989, at a local RAF/USAF base R&GC, the K31 costing me $79.95 and the 'rarer' K11 another ten bucks. There were 400 rounds of GP11 there if I wanted it, at $10 a hundred........
I have two SP scope mounts - one with a recently-acquired 3-9x40 Weaver [$24-95 in a gun store in Gold Beach OR] and the other with a 1.25 - 4.5x24 Hawke Endurance. I also have the latest diopter set from SP but with the addition of an infinitely variable adjustable foresight and backsight unit from Gehmann. With handloads, it's an easy MOA shooter, to the chagrin of quite a few people in our club. Both have never been refurbished, never been tweaked, and never been out of their stocks either, they are both simply gems.
tac
I have two SP scope mounts - one with a recently-acquired 3-9x40 Weaver [$24-95 in a gun store in Gold Beach OR] and the other with a 1.25 - 4.5x24 Hawke Endurance. I also have the latest diopter set from SP but with the addition of an infinitely variable adjustable foresight and backsight unit from Gehmann. With handloads, it's an easy MOA shooter, to the chagrin of quite a few people in our club. Both have never been refurbished, never been tweaked, and never been out of their stocks either, they are both simply gems.
tac
