The problem appears to be with CZ's warranty service itself; American shooters who post on RFC report that CZ USA gives very good warranty service and knowledgeable CZ gunsmiths to service their customers. CZ USA has no equivalent in Canada. While the vast majority of CZ rifles need no warranty service, when the odd one that does comes along it would seem as though the Canadian warranty centre is not well prepared to handle it. A warranty service centre must be able to handle not just the easy and simple problems, but also the ones that require a wealth of knowledge and experienced smiths.
Thinking of buying CZ? Think twice!
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elimsprint
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What are you doing with the crap CZ barrel? If you are junking it maybe I could get it off you to experiment with. I just got a little hobby lathe and I would like to learn how to do crowns and .22 chambers and a garbage barrel would be a perfect thing to practice on.
If you ever wander this way.......Kamloops, let me know.
Got a good example for you to practice on.
Be neat to get it back and move a gun over on it to try it out.
Barrel is a 69A and the older version.
Outer metal is pitted pretty darn good and the rifling cleaned up better than
anticipated, but there is a small area of something in there the light catches on.
Hoping to make the Lumby show coming up.
A very kind fellow is lending me his chamber reamer I'm going to see if that'll clean up the throat. Pending results of that I'd be willing to send it your way. The barrel over all I think is very good but for the chamber defect. Crown could be cleaned up and cutting off the chamber and redoing that end would be the first thing to try with it.
Setting a barrel back is an effective way of salvaging a barrel with a chamber problem. A bad chamber doesn't mean a bad bore.
Don't know how the barrel in this rifle is fitted to the receiver. In the older 1-2-3-4-5 Brnos, the barrels were threaded in. Rebarrelling one required more effort than rebarrelling most centerfire rifles. Did several. The Brno action is one of the few .22 actions of sufficient quality to justify rebarrelling.
Don't know how the barrel in this rifle is fitted to the receiver. In the older 1-2-3-4-5 Brnos, the barrels were threaded in. Rebarrelling one required more effort than rebarrelling most centerfire rifles. Did several. The Brno action is one of the few .22 actions of sufficient quality to justify rebarrelling.
elimsprint
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Kelowna, BC
Thank you.
elimsprint
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Kelowna, BC
And thank you to you also. I don't think I will be making Lumby but if I can I will let you know and maybe we can get together.
- Location
- West Quebec
With the number of service center changes in the last few years there is definitely a problem with CZ is it the centers or the claims with CZ I'm betting the claims and parts
Time is money why bother a new barrel would be much cheaper use it as a tomato stake and feel much better.You couldn't get all that machining done cheaper than a new purchase.
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elimsprint
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Kelowna, BC
Why, it looks very doable to me. We have a member on here who sets back 10/22 barrels and that is way harder than this barrel looks to be.
elimsprint
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Kelowna, BC
That's why I want it to experiment/learn on, way better than using it as a tomato stake, lol. TEG has a 455 that I can use, I hope, to see if I can get the barrel shooting. That is if the reamer doesn't fix it right up which I think there is a good chance it will.
I understand if you needed a laser to measure the fault. However, if you need to use an optical device to see the fault, it still means that you're using your eyes to see the fault. That would be like saying " We found out that you were wearing glasses to find the fault. Therefore we won't honor your warranty. Glasses are an optical device.
If the people you're dealing with at cz can only do so much at their level, then ask to speak to someone else at a higher level. That is a clear defect. Don't take this lying down. Keep going until the President of cz says no.
If the people you're dealing with at cz can only do so much at their level, then ask to speak to someone else at a higher level. That is a clear defect. Don't take this lying down. Keep going until the President of cz says no.
Elimsprint perhaps you should chat with DJdilliodon on RFC he seems to have an idea for setting back this style of barrel
New and novice I am starting to send emails about this situation to other Canadian distributors of CZ and Wolverine has said they'll pass it along to their CZ rep. Grech would not give me a copy of CZUB's written denial or their contact information. CZ's website really doesn't give me any contact information.
I'd also donate $20 to a new barrel. His problem is without a doubt legit no question about it. I've dealt with CZ usa a few times from dud barrels with provable issues to a defective fly trigger. They replaced or refunded the cost without any issues. The main problem for him IMO is the service center in Canada unfortunately.
This entire thread has me thinking. I'm wondering if a lap a barrel and get it to where I like it and then Wack an inch off the chamber end. Fit it perfectly to the action with a cone breech set up, chamber it with a ptg Lilja match chamber, attach it perm, and test it out. Wonder how good it would shoot and if it's worth doing, hmmmmm?!?!? I know benchmarks, shilens, and Lilja shoot incredible this way but doing it with a factory barrel can possibly create one heck of a sleeper! Only issue is part of the serial number is gonna be missing which will look a bit off. I may try running a reamer on a few barrels by hand (little clean up) and doing before and after testing.
New and novice I am starting to send emails about this situation to other Canadian distributors of CZ and Wolverine has said they'll pass it along to their CZ rep. Grech would not give me a copy of CZUB's written denial or their contact information. CZ's website really doesn't give me any contact information.
