Keep the shooting stuff at the firing point and only bring the essentials to the targets?
Dimitri
This year's fashion trend for SR matches
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Keep the shooting stuff at the firing point and only bring the essentials to the targets?
Dimitri
I wear an SDS FLC (fighting load carrier) II around the range. Mag pouches for 2 to 4 mags and pouches to carry hand sanitizer (can you say oink, oink, oink?), ear plugs, multi tool, admin pouch is full of other match programs (3 gun, Service Pistol, Service Rifle, Sniper Rifle) since I'm the dude running the butts, small water bottle during the run downs into the butts for scoring and butt party change, notepad and a few pens (since a few civvies forget to bring pens).
All the kit in that vest accompanies me down into the butts during each rundown/butt change since we don't dilly-dally during this down time. I budget 45 minutes per relay that than includes scoring (snap, rapid, rundown matches) and physical walking butt change so that we can get into the mess hall or lunch sooner. Every effort, even having all the right gear in the butts or on the firing line allows all of my shooters (customers) to experience a 'no screwing around' Service Rifle match to which we receive many compliments. For example: We anticipate that soldiers and/or civvies will often forget their score cards in their IECS jackets or rain gear back on the firing mound, so TimK and I place extra snap, rapid, rundown scorecards in my vest with admin pouches. Now we can carry on the scoring and a rapid butt change.
So yup, I used to shoot with a minimum amount of kit on my body, but once I assumed a position of "match facilitator" then, the responsibility is on my shoulder to get things going. And that includes spare ear foamie plugs for soldiers on the line who forget or leave their ear protection back in the team van/vehicle.
Use what works for you, tweak and improve your own org skills and then pass them on to newbs into the game.
All the kit in that vest accompanies me down into the butts during each rundown/butt change since we don't dilly-dally during this down time. I budget 45 minutes per relay that than includes scoring (snap, rapid, rundown matches) and physical walking butt change so that we can get into the mess hall or lunch sooner. Every effort, even having all the right gear in the butts or on the firing line allows all of my shooters (customers) to experience a 'no screwing around' Service Rifle match to which we receive many compliments. For example: We anticipate that soldiers and/or civvies will often forget their score cards in their IECS jackets or rain gear back on the firing mound, so TimK and I place extra snap, rapid, rundown scorecards in my vest with admin pouches. Now we can carry on the scoring and a rapid butt change.
So yup, I used to shoot with a minimum amount of kit on my body, but once I assumed a position of "match facilitator" then, the responsibility is on my shoulder to get things going. And that includes spare ear foamie plugs for soldiers on the line who forget or leave their ear protection back in the team van/vehicle.
Use what works for you, tweak and improve your own org skills and then pass them on to newbs into the game.
GT good points...the BCRA does run a very fast match with no lunch break...we carry our gear to the 200m line and pack it around from there...I still have seen no compelling reason for load bearing gear, my back pack seems to work well. I can see LBVs in lieu of a pack I suppose. As for organizing, I only have my rifle, ammo and spotting scope to deal with...and some times a grumpy partner if he doesn't get his hot chocolate<Rooster33>. As far as working the pits...two words (cough) paid marker.
. As far as working the pits...two words (cough) paid marker.
My reason for buying into MOLLE is cause of a guy who's name starts with "H".
That ended up towards this:
Dimitri
WAAAaaayyyy back when I was in the CF, one thing we were taught is to have EVERYTHING you needed on your person wherever you went. So, ammo loads, mags, water, food.. Anything you might need to get you through a given set of exercises. On the range, I'll have my backpack, but I won't touch it but once a day and that's to take of the sweater I'm wearing as the day warms up. Got some other kit in there in case it's needed, but never really dig into it. Have my ammo box behind the firing point... Everything else I carry on me. That way, no matter what I'm being tasked to do on that range, I've got everything on me and don't need to remember where I put my mags etc. There's nothing more of a pain in the ass than to have to wait for a bunch of guys to pack up their gear, range mats, backpacks, scopes, plasma TV's and haul it from one firing point to the next.
Besides, it makes me look more like a mirror commando........
Besides, it makes me look more like a mirror commando........
If you've been in the CF for 16 years, I think you've earned the right to wear CADPAT if you want to without feeling self conscious about standing next to a currently enlisted man (or woman).
I'm not a fan of carrying a whole weekends gear on me while I shoot. I've been a bit of a gear whore in the past, but I've found simple is great. When we run 3 gun matches I leave my daily kit and supplies in a duffle at the staging area and I only carry my ammo with me.
I've found plate carriers to be heavy, hot and excessive. Paper doesn't shoot back, so I've downsized to just a MAV with my mags and a vertical zippered pouch which comes in handy when some ass designs a stage where you have to carry something throughout the course of fire. I can easily carry 25 rounds of 12 guage in the vertical pouch if I need that many, 4 pistol mags (Plus 1 in my 1911), and as many as 8 mags for my AR.
Good boots and some BDUs for extra pockets, and a tighter fitting Under Armor shirt so I don't get caught on stuff and I'm off! The MAV makes a good girdle too!
I'm not a fan of carrying a whole weekends gear on me while I shoot. I've been a bit of a gear whore in the past, but I've found simple is great. When we run 3 gun matches I leave my daily kit and supplies in a duffle at the staging area and I only carry my ammo with me.
I've found plate carriers to be heavy, hot and excessive. Paper doesn't shoot back, so I've downsized to just a MAV with my mags and a vertical zippered pouch which comes in handy when some ass designs a stage where you have to carry something throughout the course of fire. I can easily carry 25 rounds of 12 guage in the vertical pouch if I need that many, 4 pistol mags (Plus 1 in my 1911), and as many as 8 mags for my AR.
Good boots and some BDUs for extra pockets, and a tighter fitting Under Armor shirt so I don't get caught on stuff and I'm off! The MAV makes a good girdle too!
Just add more multicam pouches, it will hide the OD vest real good
You can also get a plate carrier and wear some plates with it, now that's being prepared.
That Vest I laid out specifically for Service Rifle when I was considering using my M1A, for magazines, first aid kits (2 of them), Rifle repair items (extractors, ejectors, bolt disassembly tool etc) and the hydration bladder to keep me with 3L of water.
The Knife and the E&E pouch (got a bunch of small field items makes a great organizer pouch) arn't really needed but then again there is the "cool" factor (and the fact it saves me from having to attach and reattach them when I use the vest for hunting
). As for plates. I have a joke about them but I figure I shouldn't say it.
Dimitri
Becasue we don't drive to the firing point - we carry our stuff and walk to the firing point!
Load bearing gear helps a lot in organizing "stuff" and increases efficiency-much easier to keep track of kits.
I dont know why people carry only 3 mags - I bring 5 mags. There is no time to #### around. Hungry and the crews run things fast - they don't move at "leisure" speed like the rest of the ORA. We get off the firing point and hurry down to the butt. If you don't have your load bearing gear, you could easily forget water and gum down at the butt in a hurry.
People who are packing, unpacking....and having their stuff scattered around cut into my lunch time....
Meh, my Number 2 carries all the heavy stuff like the picinic basket, umbrella,chairs,and air mattresses(lay on the ground...no way!!) ,spare rifles and reloading press,primer and powder. It takes about 15mins to set up and twice that to tear down, my litter bearers take care of the walk down and carry my rifles (1 for each range of course). I require 2 or 3 firing points and 10mins of stretching/yoga before I give the clown running the range permission to start the match. At around 10 Am my personal chef arrives to begin preparing my noon meal that will last about 2 hrs. After an hour of massage and pedicure, I'll give my permission to start the range practice again. And what is this Butts you speak of??
As for dress? Well only the finest English Tweed will do of course!
NavyShooter
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Happy endings?
Will we get to see your setup during our 3 gun at the LFGA Range come end of May?
I'm away bear hunting then, but I understand there's a second match in June, so maybe then.
It isn't that cool, just plain and practical. Last year I left my mags falling all over the range on several occasions
Keebler750
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Poll options left out Realtree Hardwoods (tm) pattern. I figure I'm more or less (in)famous for it by now.....
I did just pick up a nice Eagle vest to start being more wannabe-ish. Where can I get proper mag pouches and stuff?
I did just pick up a nice Eagle vest to start being more wannabe-ish. Where can I get proper mag pouches and stuff?
