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Ok as promised.. I received my Thureon Defense 9mm carbine today and promised I would post my thoughts.

First a disclaimer.. I know nothing about carbines and this is my first. I'm mostly a pistol guy with 1 .22 cal rifle. So I can only comment on the look and feel of the gun.

I can say with impunity, "This gun feels and looks great" (of course looks are subject to opinion). The feel is amazing, The only pieces of plastic on the whole gun are the adjustable butt stock and the pistol grip. Everything else is powder coated metal. No matter how close I look, I can't find a tool mark or imperfection.

Breakdown is super easy, once you have a quick read over the directions. No tools required. Push the 2 pins and everything just comes apart.

I did however have one issue. When I took the breach apart for the first time to install the charging handle the "buffer retaining pin" and "buffer retaining spring" fell out. It appears that the buffer tube was not screwed in far enough during assembly to hold the pin in place. Can someone with more experience confirm this for me? I can post some close ups if required. Unfortunately I don't have the tools to loosen the collar and screw the tub in farther. It appears that it won't hinder the function of the riffle without it though.

I will be heading off to the range tomorrow and will post some more thoughts then.

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Wow.. this must be the ugliest AR look alike i've seen.. :)

I handled one of these in a local gun shop, fit and finish does look great, not so much the design.. :)
 
I like the no nonsense "ugly" look to it.

The slab sides are very utilitarian, a good working tool on the property that would fit nicely in the back pack or back of a truck.
 
Agreed - looks solid & functional - NR is a big plus....I would consider it as a nice addition, but cost is a bit on the high side (I believe the one pictured above probably runs around $1100 tax in?) - although that might be right in line with all other 9MM carbines....
 
dbala.. You are right on with TAX and shipping..

I think once you hold it and look at it you will think its worth it. It really is very solid and well made. It really shows the attention to detail that they boast about in some videos.

One other thing I'm loving.. It breaks down in 30 seconds with no tools. You can even take the firing pin out in 30 seconds. Its going to be so easy to clean.
 
I love to hate this little rifle. It's pure function and it's beautiful that way.

On the other hand, at least try to give it some aesthetically pleasing lines. So ugly.
 
Looks are usually important to me, but I am a firm believer that good functionality is beauty in it's own right. I have read about these things and seen a few videos, and I've never heard them called out for being jam-o-matics.

I think you made a good choice, OP. I plan to look into one of these within a few years, one just cannot argue with a good pistol caliber carbine.
 
the fact that this is nonrestricted is very apealing to me im interested for sure! i dunno maybe jes maybe.
 
Alright so I did some shooting today.. Just a little bit, about 350 rounds.. LOL..

So first impression, after the first trigger pull, "Wow more recoil than I thought it would have, and what was that funny spring sound"! Then I pulled the trigger 4 more times and your couldn't wipe the smile off my face.

It took about 50 rounds to get my cheapy ($35 ebay special) red dot sight to actually hit the black. After that it was pure joy. Man oh man did the ammo go fast. In 350 rounds I did not experience 1 single hiccough. I was shooting reloads (4.4gr Titegroup, 124gr Campro, 1.135OAL).

The guy shooting beside me was really interested, so I let him shoot 5 rounds. All smiles. He was shocked when he found out it was non restricted. I'm pretty sure he was a convert in just 5 rounds.

I have to say.. I'm ecstatic with my purchase. Its exactly what I wanted and has exceeded my expectations. Fit and finish is first rate. Accuracy is awesome. Function is flawless.

So now I'm taking requests.. Ask me anything and I will try to answer it. If you want a picture of something I'll do my best to get it posted.

For those who asked.. I purchased from Arms East. They are a sponser
http://www.armseast.com/

P.S. My favorite part.. Believe it or not, the UZI mags. At first I tried to load them like a standard 9MM mag and was super frusterated. Then I remembered reading that they were top load mags. Oh man, I didn't realize how awesome top load mags are. Just click the shells in from the top, not compressing and pushing back. Just press down and the shells pop in.
 
Fyn said:
I can't believe how much nicer those rails look, looks much better IMO.
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Looks way better!!
I hope this configuration is made available soon. I've really wanted one of these for a long time, but never got one when they first came out because of the difference in rail heights. I want to put fixed irons on it.
 
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