Tick and Lyme Disease Awareness

QUOTE "Anyone who has found a tick attached to them should see a doctor if they get a fever within the next month, Moore said." UNQUOTE

TOO LATE! These people STILL don't get it, and many of our medical professionals are not tick-savvy. If you have a tick embedded, insist on getting a treatment of the prophylactic Doxycycline.

Doug
 
ive been hunting around WMU 46 for years and not seen any ticks till this year, took my family to do some clay shooting and pulled 3 off my legs, wife took another 3 of her pants, all in less then one hour, funny enough the dog had only one (that i could find)
 
I went turkey hunting about 8 years ago. Got over 600 in two days. That was the weekend I found out about permethrin. The stuff is great. Not 100% effective the way I use it. But close.
 
Step dad had Lyme a few years back. He was lucky to see the bite but was already getting serious symptoms and couldn't walk straight... He had to pressure them to get antibiotics before the test came back. It came back positive. I've lost a lot of faith in doctors, they seem to brush off everything.
 
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Boctok said:
Ontario tracks spread of tick-borne illnesses; top doctor links it to climate change

https://www.cp24.com/news/ontario-tracks-spread-of-tick-borne-illnesses-top-doctor-links-it-to-climate-change-1.6464717
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The way I saw it, the ticks were on deer and when hunting declined they overpopulated whole areas and the ticks had their own crowded interstate transport system. Then, for some ridiculous reason, whitetail deer were imported from an infected part of the USA to Long Point Provincial Park in Ontario and the Lyme infected ticks came with them. Pretty soon the other southernmost parks on Lake Erie, Rondeau and Point Pelee, were considered infected and the ticks spread out of them. Meanwhile, in the States the Lyme ticks moved across the land border with Quebec and New Brunswick, although a bit more slowly. For sure, the bit about climate change causing or spreading Lyme is incorrect because the same ticks live in the rodent populations, notably mice, and so they can simply overwinter with them no matter how cold it gets in the winter.
 
QUOTE Then, for some ridiculous reason, whitetail deer were imported from an infected part of the USA to Long Point Provincial Park in Ontario UNQUOTE

Do you have some proof of this? I have never heard of it, and seriously doubt it is true. The Long Point whitetail population has been problematic for years - they are seriously over-abundant and are harming the "rare" vegetation found in that location. I was on the very first deer cull there, in about 1989 or 1990 I think, and there were deer everywhere. Five of us shot nine deer in two days, and we had been warned beforehand that ticks were endemic. Sure enough, I had my very first tick on me during that hunt. But there is absolutely no way that there would have been a need, or a desire, to transfer deer there.

I agree that blaming "everything" on climate change is a stretch, and I wonder what the good doctor's credentials are to be making such a claim. But we have many species that we saw never or rarely forty years ago that are now common in Southeastern Ontario. Black crappies, for example..........

Doug
 
I have a close relative who is unable to work now and paying for treatment out of pocket. Went through misdiagnosis mutliple times.

They do not test for all 18 types of lyme disease causing bacteria here. If you have one not tested for you are sol. They do not recognize testing from outside Canada.

Our healthcare system is failing us.
 
To anyone in Nova Scotia.
Most pharmacies now carry a tick kit that is free.
Try to get the tick off and take it with you. They will send it in apparently for testing. (Not sure on that one, someone said it to me - unconfirmed)
They are now semi-aware on tick bites and will offer you antibiotics on the spot.
Until you can see a doctor. There is strong belief or evidence that immediate antibiotics will help reduce chance of infection.
The point is. - DON'T WAIT!!! Call your pharmacy and see what they can do.
You do not need a prescription. Better safe than sorry.
If anyone has done this in Nova Scotia, post on your experience.
 
Just anecdotal evidence from a forestry landowner
We have many tree lots in our family and we hunt two in particular.
The last 2 years we have gone in and setup cameras on these two lots in May/June. We've done this for years.
We used to get a couple maybe during this time
The last 2 years I had over 50 on me and my buddy had so many we didn't count them all.
SO - We now wait Until late July/early August to setup cameras.
We have noticed a huge decrease in the number on us.
We were in yesterday at one of them and didn't get any.
No one has a clear understanding of the cycle of these buggers. DNR doesn't have a clue how they work.
One thing I know now from real experience is stay the hell out of the forests until August.
Obviously hard to do, but for these hunting lots I've told all my buddies to just stay out until August.
Christ last year it took an hour to get them off my buddy. Jesus they even came into the cab of the truck through the vents.
It was like a zombie apocolypse. We were spraying our watered down permethrin to kill the suckers int he truck. They were everywhere.
Oh and Permethrin is a must. We buy concentrated and water it down 10-1.
You can buy it on amazon I think.
It works great. We use it for the rest of our lots that we have to go into for forestry purposes.
They just die on your clothes in seconds.
We spray our work clothes and hang them out to dry for a few days.
It lasts several washes. I redo mine every 4th wash.
Not exact science. But it works for us.
You can watch them die as they climb your t-shirt.
God knows what it does to us though....
 
Mogulrider said:
To anyone in Nova Scotia.
Most pharmacies now carry a tick kit that is free.
Try to get the tick off and take it with you. They will send it in apparently for testing. (Not sure on that one, someone said it to me - unconfirmed)
They are now semi-aware on tick bites and will offer you antibiotics on the spot.
Until you can see a doctor. There is strong belief or evidence that immediate antibiotics will help reduce chance of infection.
The point is. - DON'T WAIT!!! Call your pharmacy and see what they can do.
You do not need a prescription. Better safe than sorry.
If anyone has done this in Nova Scotia, post on your experience.
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also in Ontario, a pharmacist can prescribe the phrophylactic dose of doxycycline. It is my very strongly held view that there is no safe amount of time for a tick to be burrowed into you. Crawling around on your body, no problem. Dug in, even if it is not 24 hours, a person should get the antibiotic.

Doug
 
Ardent said:
As the climate changes tick range will continue to spread, and the prevalence of Lyme due to longer tick seasons. Likewise, we’re going to continue to see new species of mosquito, and associated diseases arrive.
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Lyme is nothing to do with longer tick seasons. Anyone can research the history of it if they want to; I'm not going to upset Hal by reciting it all here. :rolleyes:
 
Mogulrider said:
Just anecdotal evidence from a forestry landowner
We have many tree lots in our family and we hunt two in particular.
The last 2 years we have gone in and setup cameras on these two lots in May/June. We've done this for years.
We used to get a couple maybe during this time
The last 2 years I had over 50 on me and my buddy had so many we didn't count them all.
SO - We now wait Until late July/early August to setup cameras.
We have noticed a huge decrease in the number on us.
We were in yesterday at one of them and didn't get any.
No one has a clear understanding of the cycle of these buggers. DNR doesn't have a clue how they work.
One thing I know now from real experience is stay the hell out of the forests until August.
Obviously hard to do, but for these hunting lots I've told all my buddies to just stay out until August.
Christ last year it took an hour to get them off my buddy. Jesus they even came into the cab of the truck through the vents.
It was like a zombie apocolypse. We were spraying our watered down permethrin to kill the suckers int he truck. They were everywhere.
Oh and Permethrin is a must. We buy concentrated and water it down 10-1.
You can buy it on amazon I think.
It works great. We use it for the rest of our lots that we have to go into for forestry purposes.
They just die on your clothes in seconds.
We spray our work clothes and hang them out to dry for a few days.
It lasts several washes. I redo mine every 4th wash.
Not exact science. But it works for us.
You can watch them die as they climb your t-shirt.
God knows what it does to us though....
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Holy crap that many of them eh?!

I have wondered what permethrin does to humans... And why it's still not really legal to sell in Canada as tick repellant.
 
Found the first tick for late summer. Be careful guys, treat your clothing…

Oh, took it off the dog after this morning’s run.

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So, she has Lyme and a Bartonella co-infection, Ankylosing spondylitis and a chronic mold exposure. She went carnivore and symptoms reduced somewhat and her hormonal cycles improved. She's on four pain meds for her spine and that seems to be no better than it was. She found out where the chronic mold exposure was (a gym obviously) and stopped going there and her symptoms then improved dramatically.

The Doc starts his hustle about his company, blah, blah.

So, spondylitus caused or aggravated by Lyme? No discussion of how the Lyme or Bartonella was treated or how successfully?

Maybe this should be in the Carnivore diet thread? This lady apparently still has Lyme.
 
We took over 2 dozen ticks of the 3 dogs today...

The only reason I believe I didn't find any on me is my boots & pants are treated with permethrin...
 
Jay said:
We took over 2 dozen ticks of the 3 dogs today...

The only reason I believe I didn't find any on me is my boots & pants are treated with permethrin...
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took one off the wife last week, that i think came in on the cat. 2am. used my tick key to remove it. called the 1-800 number for ontario health, what a joke. get into the cue quick but 11 hrs for a call back from a nurse and she missed the call as she was not close enough to the phone. no call back... I finally had the bright idea to have her call the pharmacy to see if they could prescribe the antibiotics for it and they could. the pharmacist was even nice enough to stay a little later than closing as i was just leaving work in the east end of town when she told be it was ready for pick up. He had wanted her to start it that night.
 
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