Tikka T1x for 22 Matches - Outlaw/ORPS ?

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-Doug-

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For the people that have a T1x I’d like to know your thoughts in it:
-what do you like
-what do you dislike
-things you would change
-what sort of accuracy are you getting at 100 yards
-what do you have your trigger weight down to?

I’m debating between a T1x or a CZ457.
Haven’t had a chance to hold a basic CZ457 yet.

Thanks
Doug
 
Tikka mags are a pain.
Accuracy is just as good as anything else.
Ended up going to a cz455 mini sniper this winter and haven't had a real chance to use it yet.

Best of luck.
 
snooze98k said:
Tikka mags are a pain.
Accuracy is just as good as anything else.
Ended up going to a cz455 mini sniper this winter and haven't had a real chance to use it yet.

Best of luck.
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What is a pain about the mags?
Loading, feeding, issues with contacting bags or rests resulting in failure to feeds?
 
I used a t1x all of last summer for orps. Upgrade the stock Replace the bolt tiny bolt handle and put a yodave trigger spring in it. That what I did and it's my favorite guyn to shoot.
 
Hildy99 said:
I used a t1x all of last summer for orps. Upgrade the stock Replace the bolt tiny bolt handle and put a yodave trigger spring in it. That what I did and it's my favorite guyn to shoot.
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What stock did you end up with?
The stock is the low point of the rifle to me, feels cheap
 
-Doug- said:
For the people that have a T1x I’d like to know your thoughts in it:
-what do you like
-what do you dislike
-things you would change
-what sort of accuracy are you getting at 100 yards
-what do you have your trigger weight down to?

I’m debating between a T1x or a CZ457.
Haven’t had a chance to hold a basic CZ457 yet.

Thanks
Doug
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I was thinking about the T1x but ended up going with a CZ457 and one major reason is the ability to swap out barrels with ease. I had plans to upgrade parts on my rifle. The initial T1x barrel swap is not easy. The video below describes the challenges involved.

 
I like everything about mine. It's the 16" barrel. I find the mas easy to reload and reliable. Mine is capable if 1" ten shot groups at 100yards with cci ar tactical.
 
Personally I thought the mags were very good, the only downside to them is you are limited to 10 rounds. Whereas with a CZ, you can add +2 or +3 extensions to get advantageous magazine capacity for the CRPS/ORPS/NRL22 games.
 
I have several T1’s and like them. I like the actions and short bolt throw. I like how it isn’t finicky on ammo. I dislike how hard the grub screws can be, I say can be as mine are 50/50 stupid tight. Half the rifles I can get loose the other half I gave up as it was just a test to see if I could. Either way it’s a one time thing so wouldn’t be a deal breaker, for me. Other than balance, maybe, I have yet to find a reason for a barrel change. For accuracy all mine will shoot well inside an inch at 100m with the right ammo and conditions.

Verse the 457 in my opinion it’s a wash, my daughters fight over the tikka, however.

SCG
 
-Doug- said:
For the people that have a T1x I’d like to know your thoughts in it:
-what do you like
-what do you dislike
-things you would change
-what sort of accuracy are you getting at 100 yards
-what do you have your trigger weight down to?

I’m debating between a T1x or a CZ457.
Haven’t had a chance to hold a basic CZ457 yet.

Thanks
Doug
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Hey Doug-I don't shoot Outlaw/ORPS and if I'm being honest, I'd have to Google those to know exactly what they are. lol However, I do have a T1x, so I'm chiming in.

My opinion? I don't think the rifle "needs" anything. It benefits from a lighter spring, aka YoDave...but that's about it. Tikka's T1x isn't a $750 fixer-upper, that's for sure. If an aftermarket stock or bolt handle blows your hair back, give'r. The stock on the T1x is identical to their centerfire synthetic stock (rifles $1K and up), save for the recoil pad (T1x doesn't have/need one) and the removable plastic shim. Agreed-the rifle isn't fancy looking, and a synthetic-stocked 22 in this price range does raise some questions. I hesitated myself initially. Now it's the .22 I reach for most.

On a side note, in over 30 years of shooting 22 enthusiastically, I've never owned or shot a .22 that shot so many types of 22 ammo well. Nothing that even came close. Mine has the 20" barrel, a YoDave trigger spring, and a scope.

And a growing # of mags. :) (which function flawlessly btw, they're excellent)
 
-Doug- said:
For the people that have a T1x I’d like to know your thoughts in it:
-what do you like
-what do you dislike
-things you would change
-what sort of accuracy are you getting at 100 yards
-what do you have your trigger weight down to?

I’m debating between a T1x or a CZ457.
Haven’t had a chance to hold a basic CZ457 yet.

Thanks
Doug
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Both the Tikka and CZ will "outshoot you" from an Outlaw ORPS perspective, where the hard part is holdover calculations and shooting from awkward or unsupported positions. In my opinion, any rifle capable of consistent 2x MOA can be successful in ORPS (though obviously lower is better). So that's 2" groups at 100 yards, 1" groups at 50 yards, half inch at 25 yards.

The only differentiators I can think of are config/cost (though both offer variants at $1K+), and with CZ you can swap barrels and calibers easily and quickly.

I went the 457 route and I've spent more than I should have on a .22 ....and if I were to do it over, I would buy this: https://g4cgunstore.com/product/cz-457-mdt-xrs-22lr-16-fde/ and be done.

Edit - I'd get the longer barrel version, but same rig. Also, from a source perspective, I shoot ORPS regularly, and led my range in open class last year.
 
I’ve been looking at that MDT combo but agree I would rather see it with a 20” barrel.
I wonder if a Tikka version will come out.
 
Southcountryguy said:
Have you looked at the UPR? While not a MDT chassis it may offer what you want.
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The practical reason for changing the stock for precision shooting is for fit and to give you more flexibility for attaching bipods and such. Specifically, the ability to slide or mount your bipod close to the magwell can be very helpful when shooting off an egg crate, barrel, etc.

With this in mind, the UPR isn't what I would go for. Without (convenient installation of) an arca rail or pic rails, I wouldn't spend an extra penny on a UPR stock.
 
Bubbafett33 said:
The practical reason for changing the stock for precision shooting is for fit and to give you more flexibility for attaching bipods and such. Specifically, the ability to slide or mount your bipod close to the magwell can be very helpful when shooting off an egg crate, barrel, etc.

With this in mind, the UPR isn't what I would go for. Without (convenient installation of) an arca rail or pic rails, I wouldn't spend an extra penny on a UPR stock.
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Agreed
 
I’ve got a T1X with around 8K rounds through it with the factory barrel. It’s in an MDT ACC, with a YoDave trigger spring. It shoots quite well. Trigger is great. 10 rnd groups at 100yds approaching 1” sometimes, but out of 44 ten shot groups with CCISV, the average was 1.76”. SKRM was no better. A couple tests with some Center-X and Eley Match was under 1.5” for 10rnds at 100yds. The CCISV was every group I shot in a maybe a 6 month period, no exclusions because of wind or twitches on my part. Mags are trouble free. I was concerned about the change over to my IBI barrel. I used lots of heat and a big hammer and it went fine. God hates a coward. The IBI barrel cut 0.5” off SKRM 10 shot groups at 100yds. With Center-X and Eley Match both, 2 out of 3 10 shot groups were around 0.75” at 100yds. A chassis is the proper tool for CRPS. I shoot a regular stocked 10/22 with a cheek rest also. Much more difficult than using a chassis.
 
Bubbafett33 said:
The practical reason for changing the stock for precision shooting is for fit and to give you more flexibility for attaching bipods and such. Specifically, the ability to slide or mount your bipod close to the magwell can be very helpful when shooting off an egg crate, barrel, etc.

With this in mind, the UPR isn't what I would go for. Without (convenient installation of) an arca rail or pic rails, I wouldn't spend an extra penny on a UPR stock.
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I agree.
 
I just got one. Intend to shoot Production class so talk of chassis isn't for me.
I've owned a CZ455 and it turned me off CZs.

Big thing is how factory parts can improve the ergonomics of the stock which keeps me in Production. The trigger is massively better than an unmodified 455. So far accuracy seems improved as well, running with my 64 actioned Anschutz.
The mags are a high point compared to CZ so far too. Easy to handle and index.
 
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