Tikka T3 magazines

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Mateus

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I own a Tikka T3 lite and I was shocked at how expensive it was to purchase a magazine. I figured they were made out of some super polymer (plastic) that was indestructible. Well this semester I started a class on polymers and composite materials and on one day I brought the magazine with me to show my professor. He couldn’t tell exactly what polymer it was, but it was definitely a thermoset polymer and he thought it looked like PA (polyamide) known as nylon. Nylon is a very tough polymer that is used it many applications where the parts have critical functions. Now a high grade nylon usually runs at about 10$ per kg therefore in my opinion the magazines are extremely over priced. I can’t know for sure the type of polymer used without my professor taking a sample from the magazine but even if it was some super indestructible plastic the price of the material itself and the molding would not be in the 100$ range. This was not a thorough research so I may be wrong, but I will believe this until someone does prove me wrong.

I still love Tikka’s, I have no regrets with the rifle and I would buy a second one if I had the money.

Matt
 
Material cost is probably one of the smallest considerations. Design, manufacturing and machining all cost more than the raw material I would bet.
 
boonerbuck said:
I guess since the rifle is under priced in comparison to the junk on the market today, it evens out.
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I have a Tikka T3 Lite 22-250. I agree this is a great rifle for the price but if ever lose my mag, I am afraid it may become a single shot.
 
troyski2 said:
Material cost is probably one of the smallest considerations. Design, manufacturing and machining all cost more than the raw material I would bet.
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Yup, It likely took a ton of R+D to figure out how to make old milk jugs and P'Diddy CD's into a rifle parts for the T3 (grin).

Can't wait until the Fin's figure out how to make one out of wood, that may drop the price a little with all of the Mtn Pine Beetle wood floating around ... the T3 would be a real bargain and maybe not melt in the hot cab of the pickup (grin)!

BIGREDD....are ya reading this... waiting for a flamey rebuttal (Grin)!

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This was a determining factor in my not buying a Tikka T3 .
The rifle market is highly competetive right now with many choises for the consumer . The T3 is a nice feeling gun with a good price , but so are several others that don't screw you as bad for the extras .
A hundred bucks is nuts for a mag , that peice of plastic isn't worth $50.00 .
 
Well made Plastic mags are 100x better than steel ones. Mags get beat around, dropped squished ect. Steel bends and next thing you know the mag won't feed correctly and jams up. I will gladly pay extra (even if it is a bit of a rip) for a plastic one that holds it's shape.
 
Have you priced a Browning or Remington Mag lately????
They will bend and rust.... and the new mags coming from Remington are junk... most won't fit or function without work.
 
I own both Sako and Tikka T3 rifles. I prefer the Sako Stainless clip for my m75 SS 300WM. I don't know how many times I have dropped it on the ground ( have the clip sitting between my legs when I 'm driving back to the farm after being set up for a hunt, or fallen out of my pocket. These clips are vry well built. I should of bought a spare Sako clip when I got my rifle in 1998...the clips were about $90....now they are 140-150.

As to the Tikka T3 clips, they are functional. The plastics now are alot strong then before. I guess this helps a bit keep the overall price of a Tikka rifle $500 lower than a Sako. Great value/rifle for the price. I still would buy a Tikka over any other manufacturer except for Sako, anyday!
 
BIGREDD said:
Have you priced a Browning or Remington Mag lately????
They will bend and rust.... and the new mags coming from Remington are junk... most won't fit or function without work.
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75 bucks for my browning, and drop it or bend it, and its ####ed.
The material in it is much cheaper than the cost of the Polymer, and its still an arm and a leg. I'd much rather pay the extra 20 bucks for something that is nearly indestructable. (Ie Polymer) than metal.
I dropped one of my browning mags off the ATV, and I spent a few hours to get it back to shape, but it wasnt perfect. It functions perfect now, but the bottom plate in the mag hangs low a bit.
Yu'll never have that problem with a T3 Mag.
The shells bounce out of em, but thats about it.
And on the other side of the coin, the remington mags weigh like 4oz's.
I'd figure over time, their weight would wear the latches out of the guns :D
Afterall, its remington quality. :D
(armloads of wood on the fire:p )
 
Hi Matt,

Don't mean to be picky, but Polyamide (nylon) is a thermoplastic not a thermoset.

Material cost will be a very small part of the cost of these parts. The largest cost component will be the tooling or molds to make them.

Anyway, I'm sure Tikka sells these for the highest price the market will allow. That's normal business practice.

I have two Tikka T3's and I'm delighted with them. The magazines are not their best feature, but they work well (so far)
 
I've never seen Browning, Winchester, Savage, or any other magazine I've tried function as smoothly as all the Tikka T3's(3 of them so far) in my gun safe. The only metal mag that is anywhere near it is the Ithaca(Tikka).
 
I'm a second year mechanical engineering student and this is the first time I learn about polymers. You are also right David! PA is a thermoplastic, I had read my book wrong.
Sorry for the mistake.

Matt
 
Mateus said:
I'm a second year mechanical engineering student and this is the first time I learn about polymers. You are also right David! PA is a thermoplastic, I had read my book wrong.
Sorry for the mistake.

Matt
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Which university?
 
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