Time to upgrade Cheapest Hornady Lock n Load AP in Canada ?

SandRoad said:
You do know there is a brand new primer system that just became available for the Loadmaster. Apparently it solves most priming issues.

I also have a full Hornady LnL setup.
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Is that the update you are talking about ?
Start at 8:30
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Seriously Ive been a lee user for the last 2 years. I know how to work on my press and how to fix it. I would like to start to Reload now, and never #### around again with a freaking primer system.
 
The reason I don't write a novel in every topic is because I've already wrote it 50 times an when I replied I was on iPhone and didnt want to write a novel on my phone it's not the actual feeder I have a problem with its the way it feeds to the shell plate hornady requires alot o fiddling with for each caliber where all the 650s and 1050s I've been on are much much smoother and less fiddling require. Also the case feeders may use the same plates but there are many differences between the 2 not only is dillon case feeder cheaper it is a better design
 
pfft, get a lee pro 1000 for each cal :) (well pistol cal anyhow) minor primer issues here and there, no big deal. calibre changes are as simple as moving your chair left or right :)

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Spawn-Inc said:
pfft, get a lee pro 1000 for each cal :) (well pistol cal anyhow) minor primer issues here and there, no big deal. calibre changes are as simple as moving your chair left or right :)

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That would take me alot of pro 1000s and I just don't have the room so for now I'll stay with my lnl and next stop will be the 1050
 
ripitup911 said:
That would take me alot of pro 1000s and I just don't have the room so for now I'll stay with my lnl and next stop will be the 1050
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i was actually going to end up with the LNL, but do to lack of funds and time for it to arrive i ended up with one pro1000, then another, then another. and so on. still under the cost of the LNL but my next pro1000 would push me over the cost. once i get more calibres (only running 4 right now) i may consider upgrading.
 
i bought a hornady lnl from henry and i think its great, i only reload one caliber so cant comment on caliber changes but the lnl system seems like it would be very easy and only costs 10$ more than what you pay for the dies and shell plate

ill be adding a case feeder sooner or later but for now i get through about 300 an hour without it or a bullet feeder
 
SandRoad said:
15 minutes is "not too bad" ?????

That would make me go back to my Lee Loadmaster......
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Been there done that... I would rather fiddle with my Dillon for 15min then fiddle with my LM EVERY 15min.

Actually I have been considering a second 650 and keeping it setup for .308 and x39 but I'm leaning more towards a 1050 for .223/.308 because the built in swager would be more convienient for me.... Decisions decisions....
 
GunNut442 said:
Ok, how much for a 1050 with 5 toolheads?
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1050 with 1 tool head and conversion =$1669.95

1050 quick change kits $269.00 x4 =$1076

1050 caliber conversion kits $118 x4 =$472

Plus strong mount and roller handle....

Add on a Mr.Bulletfeeder with 4 conversions and your approaching an entry level economy car... With a PW auto drive you might get AC.
 
Well someone Sent me a Quote.

$1072 for a Dillon 650 tax in. This include the Case feeder and a conversion kit.
Ill probably get $300 or maybe more (lots of extra) for my loadmaster
we are down to $772...

Let see if I can find a better deal ...
 
GunNut442 said:
SandRoad,

If the Hornady LocknLoad Ammo Plant with bullet feeder configured for five calibers and the Dillon Super 1050 with bullet feeder configured for five calibers were exactly the same price, which would you buy and why?

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I'm not sandroad, but here goes. I would buy the LNL, because I change calibres and settings a lot - I like to tinker. If I stuck with the same settings and/or did not change calibres as much (longer runs), then the 1050 - it is a better pure high-volume setup. If I used mostly once-fired mil brass, then would also lean to the 1050 because of the crimp. As it is I try to avoid crimped brass, and when I find it, decrimp once and re-use the brass many times (hence my famous 3bucc brass catcher).

As always, there is no "best" without context defined by a person's needs.
 
For what's it worth...

I have a 1050 with a Mr Bullet Feeder and a PW autodrive.

I only load 9 mm on it (Major and Minor) so I have an extra powder dispencer...and a Redding Competition Seating die (Micro adjustable)...no need to change primers, so it just takes 5 minutes to switch over.

I have about 4k invested (with the auto promer filler) and I don't regret the purchase one bit

There is no more solid or precise press on the market (other than commercial machines)

You'll only remember the cost of the purchase if you regret buying it...

GunNut442 said:
Thank you for replying acrashb.

Sorry, my post was for everyone to reply.

I especially wanted to hear from you acrashb, because of your comparisons between the Dillon and Hornady. I have seen your posts and very nice work by the way.

After checking your posts I was convinced that the Hornady Ammo Plant was for me. The only reason I don't own one right now is the price. I suppose I got intrigued by the initial cost of the machine without realizing the actual total cost with all the parts needed to load five calibers.

Basically I am looking at about $5,000.00 for the Hornady and $6,000.00 for the Dillon. Way more money than I had expected.

With that large of an investment I want to make damn sure I get the one I will be happy with. The funny thing is the only thing I have not seen on this site is those astronomical numbers.

I would appreciate anyone who has had experience with these machines to chime in.



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volks_r_us said:
Got a price for the Hornady

$460 Press
$360 case feeder
$25 extra bushing
$45 Shell holder
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Tax in $1023.28

:-/ hummm
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Your into Dillon 650 territory with that price....

TSE was selling 650's for US retail price but I hear they are going up 10%...

My setup off the top of my head:

Dillon 650 with 1 caliber conversion and shipping $650
Case feeder $280

Extra conversion kits are between $75 and $100
Tool heads are around $35

If you stay away from the $150 quick change kits caliber swaps are cheap.

If your dead set on the LNL remember you get free bullets when you purchase one so add that into your cost.
 
Dillon considers it a commercial machine...

So I guess it's an entry commercial machine, that most poeple could actually afford...once they convince themsekves they need that kind of output.

To me...time at the bench is time I could be doing something else...

It wasn't cheap...but spare time seems to be at a premium these days.

Hotwheels81 said:
.....several commercial reloaders use 1050's, that would all most make me believe the 1050 IS a commercial machine.
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GunNut442 said:
The funny thing is the only thing I have not seen on this site is those astronomical numbers.
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That's partly because you can do better with patient scrounging of used gear (my LNL is second-hand, as are many of my pieces of gear), and partly because no-one wants to see the total amount, even having spent it over a few years :)
 
GunNut442 said:
SandRoad,

If the Hornady LocknLoad Ammo Plant with bullet feeder configured for five calibers and the Dillon Super 1050 with bullet feeder configured for five calibers were exactly the same price, which would you buy and why?

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However on earth do you get a Hornady LnL with 5 calibers the same cost as a 1050 with 5 calibers?

Please enlighten me, because I load more than 5 calibers and am nowhere near the cost of a 1050 with 5 calibers.
 
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