To Convert a handgun from 12(6) to Restricted Class Can You Do This?

84fuegoturbo said:
Are you seriously thinking you can do this yourself? This isn't like replacing grips, or simple field stripping, if I was you, I'd pay the 500$ and not blow myself up with some "bubba smithing" There is a reason the quote is for 500$.

Just my .02 though
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Hello

To answer your question, hell no was I thinking about a DIY project. I was just curious of the type of steel and if a special license is needed. You won`t believe ALL the replies I have gotten to this post with multiple ways to do what I need.
George
 
GeorgeJure said:
Hello Again

Just curious, does anyone know what the type of metal is that is used for making gun barrels,is it 4140? Is the steel able to be bought by anyone OR do you need a special licence?
George
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Heaven only knows what steel Beretta used in M1934 barrels. Beretta made good guns; the steel used was entirely suitable for the purpose.
4140 is a very common Cr-Mo steel used to make high power rifle barrels. There are others.
1137 steel would be just fine for 9mm Corto pistol barrels.
No special licence is needed to buy steel.
 
dan belisle said:
The point of using the liner is that it is one barrel over 105mm long. Long ago the government disallowed welding on extensions to bring firearms to legal length. - dan
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Hello
Thanks for your reply. Now I have to ask, without wanting to start a argument, Why does the government not allow welded on extensions to gun barrels? If you think about it, if done properly, the weld point is actually stronger than the main steel.
George
 
Because. Just because.
I cannot see how a welded splice in a barrel would be stronger than the original barrel.
 
Hello again
From what a friend of mine who is a welder by trade once told me. Because, I know never start with because, with the heat and penetration of the weld at the seem, the metal is stronger there then the rest of the steel, a molecular thing. IF it is done right.
As for our Government, I gave up trying to figure there mental process except for the fact they are hell bent on shafting us out of our Proh. handguns.
George
 
GeorgeJure, if you have your prohibited license and own the 1934 Beretta .380 Corto already then why the need to spend money and convert it to restricted, why not just carry on and shoot it? Is the original barrel screwed or is it a "just because I want to thing" ?

Btw, prerifled barrel blanks are not illegal in Canada and there are vendors that do carry them and might sell a 12" length of it. Try Mystic Precision, Epps or Dlask...
 
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dan belisle said:
It has nothing to do with the weld or safety. Has to do with the cfc "experts" deciding it has to be one piece. As your mother used to say, "because". - dan
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Two separate points.

Why is extending a barrel is not acceptable? Because. Just because. The powers that be said so.

Welding issue - weld two barrels together to make a longer barrel, and the welded area is stronger than the barrels themselves? Really?

This whole discussion of this Beretta 34...
If it is registered as a 12-6, it is legal and transferrable to: a holder of a PAL with 12-6 endorsement or an immediate family member with a PAL with restricted endorsement as 12-7.
Altered and reclassified to restricted, it is transferable like any other restricted firearm.
There are established and practical ways of doing this.
 
MET said:
GeorgeJure, if you have your prohibited license and own the 1934 Beretta .380 Corto already then why the need to spend money and convert it to restricted, why not just carry on and shoot it? Is the original barrel screwed or is it a "just because I want to thing" ?

Btw, prerifled barrel blanks are not illegal in Canada and there are vendors that do carry them and might sell a 12" length of it. Try Mystic Precision, Epps or Dlask...
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Hi MET
Had a 12(6) lost it due to a technicality and have 30 days to either destroy, sell, transfer Or modify.
George
 
tiriaq said:
Two separate points.

Why is extending a barrel is not acceptable? Because. Just because. The powers that be said so.

Welding issue - weld two barrels together to make a longer barrel, and the welded area is stronger than the barrels themselves? Really?

This whole discussion of this Beretta 34...
If it is registered as a 12-6, it is legal and transferrable to: a holder of a PAL with 12-6 endorsement or an immediate family member with a PAL with restricted endorsement as 12-7.
Altered and reclassified to restricted, it is transferable like any other restricted firearm.
There are established and practical ways of doing this.
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Hi tiriaq

Like I said above, had a 12(6), lost it due to a technicality. Mt dad who gave up his license completely had a Proh. handgun that they will allow to be transferred to me under 12(7) grandfather clause because of it`s age, before 1946. Can that help me keep my Beretta 34?
George
 
You are running out of time. Transfer it to someone with 12-6. It could be reworked and reclassified later, and then transferred back to you.
Sounds as if your dad's gun could go to you as 12-7. Too bad his licence has lapsed. You could have transferred the Beretta to him, then to yourself as 12-7.
 
George - spend the money and take it to Epps and have them do the conversion. I've had them do a few different prohibs including two Beretta 34's. They'll make the new barrel and get the paperwork with the CFO completed for you. It's worth the few extra bucks for the piece of mind that everything is done properly. Also, the work will actually increase the value of the gun as it can now be sold as a regular restricted. It'll also keep a small piece of history out of the smelter!
 
dogzilla;A ppk in .32 can be had for about $350 (although not usually on EE as they are all ultra rare and were Hitler's personal side arm (every single one of them)).[/QUOTE said:
Please point me to the 350.00 PPK's
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Here is what I would try. Make a stepped liner.
Drill the barrel end to end 15/32".
Turn a piece of 9mm barrel so that it would fit snugly through the drilled out barrel. Leave a portion 14.12mm diameter. This would butt up against the original muzzle. Cut so that the liner would exceed 106mm, breech to new muzzle. Bond the liner in place. Chamber, cut for extractor and feed ramp. Greatest expense would be the chambering reamer, unless a D reamer were shop made.
 
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