tokarev t33 a main pistol?

[BCRider]

The two Norc 213's I had for a while were amazing guns that shot as well as any handgun I've tried. And I never had a single stoppage. I'm a big fan of the Tok basic design for this reason.

The ONLY reason I don't still have one or both of them is that they don't come in any model with a decently useable safety. And since all my guns see time at matches where I need a safety on any single action that meant that they stayed in the safe far too much and finally were sent to new homes.

Tok haters can hate all you want. The rest of us know that these are fine shooting guns. They may not stack up if used in a bullseye match by a top rank shooter but the gun can perform well enough to make most average and better than average shooters look good.

... if only it had that decent to use safety.....

 

[tiriaq]

The absence of a traditional thumb safety could be an issue for some disciplines. The half #### is safe, but a bit awkward; better be careful when putting a loaded pistol on half ####.
For something like ORA CQB, this is irrelevant.
The grip angle doesn't make it easy to pick up the sights rapidly. A high grip can result in a hammer bite on the web of the thumb.
The sights are small.
A Serpa for the 1911 can be easily modified for a TT. I installed a slip of black plastic pipe along the front of the holster. Fit was improved dramatically.

 

[gewehr76]

I've been told the 7.62x25 cartridge has guaranteed stopping power when applied directly to the back of a dissident's skull.

No, they used Parabellum for that.

 

[TriggerTime]

I just tie a rag thru the front side of my serpa 1911 holster. Makes the fit adjustable and no scratches on the slide either.

 

[tazzharm]

I never did complain about my T33, love shooting it infact I'm going to range tomorrow morning and this will be one of my guns I'm taking
once it starts to warm up it tends to fail meaning the slide will jam half open/close so I need to do some testing with it to find out a good solution to it
I usually shoot a few mags then quick take down wipe and lube then keep shooting , maybe I'm not lubing enough in correct places
will try out tomorrow and see what may cause it to jam up
anyways will keep feeding it

 

[Grove]

Oh forgot to add this bit, which is the main reason why I sold mine.

On random occasion when inserting a magazine into a Russian TT33, sometimes the magazine will catch on the trigger action bars and not slam directly into place for a rapid reload, I've had magazines that would mess up with me on being inserted.

Can be seen at the start and the 50 second mark, otherwise without that random issue the pistols are excellent.

Once you figure out the rough angle the mags want to be inserted at tho, not an issue but just something to be aware of.

Could have been just few slightly bulged/ect mags as I picked up quite a few spares anytime I saw them for sale locally.

 

[Kryogen]

my slide doesnt close 50% of the time, I have to push on it every other shot to close. No clue why.

I even installed the wolf spring kit, isnt any better.
And it shoots more like 4 inches at 7 meters.

Maybe I have a lemon.

I'm not complaining for no reason, mine is defective. Is there some warranty of some sort on surplus handguns like that anyway?

 

[tazzharm]

Hey
was out at range this morning with my tok
for the first four mags all went fine then it started to jam up , I would just spank it and keep shooting.
I'm going to test it next time if range has non surplus ammo
I read its cause when the gun warms up particles from ammo stick to it making it jam up but non surplus ammo will tell

 

[Goo98]

my slide doesnt close 50% of the time, I have to push on it every other shot to close. No clue why.

I even installed the wolf spring kit, isnt any better.
And it shoots more like 4 inches at 7 meters.

Maybe I have a lemon.

I'm not complaining for no reason, mine is defective. Is there some warranty of some sort on surplus handguns like that anyway?

Slide is probably binding on the hammer. Filing the hammer face down a little would fix it.

 

[BCRider]

Those of you having issues with your guns at least have a right to complain a little. But let's face it. ANY gun can go bad at some point or require some tuning. Plus we have no way of knowing how much our guns were used before being packed and stored.

I ran into that trigger bar jam mentioned by Grove. But a little time spent tweaking the trigger bow for a better fit in the slot of the frame both eliminated the issue and reduced the trigger slop. So they can benefit from some tweaking.

 

[BCRider]

my slide doesnt close 50% of the time, I have to push on it every other shot to close. No clue why.

I even installed the wolf spring kit, isnt any better.
And it shoots more like 4 inches at 7 meters.

Maybe I have a lemon.

I'm not complaining for no reason, mine is defective. Is there some warranty of some sort on surplus handguns like that anyway?

Warranty? The folks that brought them in and sold them might offer some replacement on known bad ones. But so many different folks have brought in batches that it's going to be very hard to find out who to contact.

I'm going to guess that your lack of accuracy is related to the tightness of the slide. A good first step to finding out where the problem is would be to remove the action group then try the slide and barrel by itself. If the slide can easily move and lock up the barrel easily and with a nice snap then try the next issue. With the action group still out of the gun seat a mag and try cycling the slide again. The recoil spring should easily snap the slide and barrel forward into proper lockup. Now try it again with a few snap caps. The slide and recoil spring should be able to easily strip a snap cap out of the mag and into the chamber. If the gun gets sticky at any point then look into it. If it's still nice and slick then it's possible that Goo's idea of slightly reducing the hammer is valid. But check to be sure that the hammer is binding. On a properly adjusted gun you should be able to pull the hammer down and cause a slight gap between the hammer nose and the slide track. If you can't then something is wrong with the action group.

Or perhaps you're simply not oiling or greasing the spine that runs down the lower back of the slide? That smooth track is what the hammer slides on as the slide cycles. That surface needs to be smooth and lubricated. So perhaps start by checking for bad rough burrs or other issues there.