Not all shots on game are taken from a blind or tree stand. There is also a style of hunting called pushing bush, a semi make very good sense for this type of hunting. Also any rifle, semi, bolt, pump, single shot, or lever that will group 2 to even 3 inches at 100 yards is quite capable of taking game out to 200 yards. Long range is fun but most game animals are shot at close range.
Too many .30-06 choices!
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About half of the game I take is done pushing bush. I don't own an automatic and don't know anyone who does, I have practiced enough to be able to hit these running shots. What I am saying is, if you are not able to hit a running deer on the first shot how does being able to fire 3 more quickly make you any more accurate. Granted you maybe able to fire 4 shots instead of 2, but I think all that does is allow you to miss more.
I have nothing against automatics in general, but if you are going to use one I would think that you should still practice enough until you can hit running deer on the first shot just as you would a standing deer.
I am not claiming I never miss, but when I do I don't think being able to shoot faster is the solution.
I have limited experience with semi-auto rifles (only have a Winchester 100 .308 and it has always been flawless), but if Benelli makes their rifles with the same level of expertise as they do their shotguns I'm sure you will be very happy with an R1
Eastern ones too.
If buying a semi equates to getting more lead in the air, it's the wrong reason.
Really?
I'm not saying a semi will make any one more accurate, all I'm trying to point out is that if the need for a follow up shot is required it is there merely with a second pull of the trigger. A semi is not a requirment of a moving shot on big game but IMHO, a BAR is as effective in terms of practical hunting accuracy as any bolt action at average game shooting distances. It will NOT make you any less of a hunter.
How does using a semi somehow make one less of a ethical hunter (as in the often implied spray and pray BS)? It is simply another choice of an action to accomplish what one has set out to achieve.
pisces-guy
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- West Kelowna, B.C.
You can't go wrong with the BAR, a buddy has used one for over 20 years now and it works beautifully!
I never said anything about using a semi being unethical.
I was responding to the OP's statement that he "wants to be able to squeeze off a few more rounds before they get into the thick stuff." I agree that a semi is accurate enough for practical hunting ranges. I would suggest that is not any more difficult to hit a running deer on the first shot with a bolt action than it is with a semi.
I agree using a BAR does NOT make you less of a hunter. I would suggest that learning to hit a running deer on the first shot regardless of what type of action you are using makes you a BETTER hunter.
What you're missing is one of the most impressive displays of shooting with a bolt action as you're ever likely to see.
257wbycustom
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one shot one harvest....
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I live bout a hour south of you and I hear what you're sayin! It's scrubby-swampy fast dog drivin! If you got your heart set on a semi, try to find a Remington 7400 THEY WORKED AWESOME! But a Remington 7600 wins the reliability game, I use one you'd be surprised how fast you can ring em out and hit what your shootin at!
I must agree, it's what I use for everything I hunt as far as big game goes!
The ones who still own em do so for a reason.
He should probably learn to work his gun before taking it out.
No sir, same accuracy with more volume it's a win win, let him be.
You guys really can't, we can't watch them walk in from a day away out here. BAM it's there. BAM it's gone, huh that all happened in 2 seconds. My Grandfather lives in Alberta he can't fathom it either, Gonna bring him huntin this year with his super whizzbang bolt and scope. Love the guy but he'll learn opening day that it's nodda gonna work.
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At least somebody gets it!
I shot a spike buck last fall when I was running out. Hit him once, that was the 3rd and last shot I fired before he got into the REAL thick stuff where I couldn't see him. First 2 shots, 2 big hemlocks took the full brunt of both balls, this was about a 5 second window to get on him and get a ball in him. Bangbang..bang. 3 shot, 5 seconds, dead deer cause I know how to work my pump 30-06 and practice non stop all year. I know how and where the OP hunts, it's THICK and a semi will help get the deer down.
It didn't take long for the old "why do you need a semi" taint to creep in.
Right?
Read above, I'm sure the OP has some awesome stories too!
Actually I'll ask RedneckRem we need some stories of fast shootin and deer killin!
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Now there's a pile of information I wasn't expecting! Y'all seem to know your stuff - that's for sure. As I mentioned before, my main is a 99e, but my alternate is an 870 super mag pump. Love them both. And yes, I can crank them out with a pump faster than all get out, but I doubt I could do it as fast as a semi.
I may have miscommunicated my intent behind getting a semi earlier. It's not so much for the spray and pray, but ultimately for two reasons:
1. I feel a semi would just give me more options in the different scenarios I face in the Addington Highlands; and
2. I want a semi.
Trapaholic, you make some great points.
I may have miscommunicated my intent behind getting a semi earlier. It's not so much for the spray and pray, but ultimately for two reasons:
1. I feel a semi would just give me more options in the different scenarios I face in the Addington Highlands; and
2. I want a semi.
Trapaholic, you make some great points.
thank you my good sir, and wanting a semi is enough reason to get one
I used a 7400 In 308 for a couple years, they're just as dead but they're kinda weighty. Fun fact for everybody, I shot milk jugs from 25 yards with my uncles 7400 in 30-06 it went through 3 jugs and came to rest in the 4th, I shot the same distance and load with my 7600 and it went through 5 jugs and came to rest in the 6th. It's kinda mind boggling how much power the semi loses cycling the action just a tidbit of info. I wouldn't believe it if i hadn't seen it myself. 180 grain core lokt soft points in the 308 murder deer and moose in a hurry with a BIG hole, just a suggestion for ammo. Got a picture of your old 99?
