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You can order them direct from Tract Optics from their Canadian web site.
It is the same basic body design as an Athlon Cronus or Delta Stryker with some differences, of course.
They claim they are using Schott glass. I don't see how they could be using real Schott glass, at that price point.
I have used one, but don't own one. It is a decent scope, but heavy.
It is the same basic body design as an Athlon Cronus or Delta Stryker with some differences, of course.
They claim they are using Schott glass. I don't see how they could be using real Schott glass, at that price point.
I have used one, but don't own one. It is a decent scope, but heavy.
As Walterfisher mentioned, the Tract Toric 4.5-30x56 ELR is all made by LOW (OEM) in Japan much like Athlon Cronus, Delta Stryker and Trijicon TenMile using the same base body design but to their individual brand/model specification. From a quality and value standpoint, I think most would agree that they are giving very little up in terms of glass and features where it becomes exponentially more expensive for 'marginal gains' from the truly high-end brands (eg Zero Compromise, Tangent Theta, etc etc).
However, between the like for like comparison. I would say find whichever reticle you prefer and make that you primary deciding factor (note also that apart from reticle, they may also light up differently) and then any other applicable feature/turret preferences.
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I was comparing prices between, Athlon Cronus, Bushnell,,Delta and even the Razor, all made in Japan, and these scopes are in the mid range price wise, it seems the Tract has the best price right now, almost the same features unless I’m missing something, maybe you can enlighten me on here. I’m using the Razor as the bar, sure the high ends Kahles, SB, NF and TT are on top, but its way above what I can afford, so will stick on the brands above
The most apples to apples comparison would be Tract Toric <-> Trijicon TenMile <-> Athlon Cronus <-> Delta Stryker and maybe there's yet another outlier built one the same base platform. The Tract Toric might be lowest consumer price for a number of reasons (business modeling, administrative overhead, MSRP vs street pricing), OEM spec'd features requested and reticle design costs. Glass wise, I don't think most can tell the difference in my opinion. Overall I think Tract Toric and Athlon Cronus are probably most alike, and the call is likely down to reticle preference. The Trijicon TenMile and Delta Stryker offer some other desirable features, notably in more parallax adjustment for both and different turret types than the former. If you are shooting a variety of calibers, the parallax refinement might be a deciding factor as well (ie rimfire as well or only large bore, and if only large bore, to what distances)
The above are probably most comparable in overall function with the Vortex Gen 2 Razor (noting it would be a poor choice for precision rimfire). Does Vortex edge them out? Probably, but probably not by much if at all. One thing is for sure, Vortex is a big brand and ease of warranty/customer service is part of what one is paying for. I've heard great things about the Gen 3 but haven't had any real time looking through, although I have a pretty good feeling it's a great product.
The wild card is the (Canadian designed) Apex Rival (made by JOL, not LOW). There's a lot to like in features let alone comparable price. It isn't for everyone though either. Where Delta takes a more minimalist approach on reticle design and illumination (just the aiming point and dot), Trijicon/Athlon/Tract light up the entire Christmas tree and Tract is the 'busiest' reticle to me of these four. Apex Rival is to me somewhere in between with plenty enough reference but illumination is only the axes cross.
Already have the Strike Eagle and PSst2 5-25 on my rimfire, and both are working fine for their purpose. The Razor was originally on my Defiance/Kreiger but move to my newly setup Defiance/ Kreiger 6.5x47, the rifle is shooting great, thanks to Kevin Chou, so the new scope will be going either to the 308 or 6.5 x47
I have the Tract Toric MRAD PRS Long Range model and I use it out to 700 yards with my 6.5 Creed. I also have a Nightforce NXS and I can't see any difference between the two, my opinion of course. I also have their rimfire target scope, it is pretty good as well for the price. In regards to the discount just message them, you will have one of the owners messaging you back within a couple of hours, they're awesome to deal with.
I bought the 4-20x50 MRAD PRS with the intent to put it on a 223 I have, for plinking gophers. It was a leap of faith, bought without physically seeing one, not at all disappointed upon receipt. In the meantime I'd bought a CZ457 and stuck it on there, works great, no beefs, I'd buy again.
Also have the 4.5-30x56 Delta Stryker Gen 2 w/DLR-1 on a Tikka TAC A1 6.5cm, bought the same way, definitely not disappointed by it, does what I want it to do. The Gen 3 is supposed to have an improved parallax adj and "better" markings on the turret, point is, if you are reading reviews, make sure which version you are reading about. I have no beef with the parallax on the Gen 2 and I can read the turrets just fine. If they improved them great, no beef with what I have.
Both track dead on, both are great glass. Seems to me on the 4.5-30x56 that Tract is about 100.00 more than the Delta, and it may just come down to whose reticle you like better. Tract has bigger knobs, Delta has a popup rev indicator.
I bought the Tract before they opened the Cdn website, they were super easy to deal with, sent all the paperwork needed with instructions that were really well done and simple. Took 2-1/2 months to get it, all said and done. That may have improved, but, they have had stock shortages, as I've noticed from time to time, so it pays to check that.
Bought the Delta from Tesro on a Black Friday sale, had it in 10 days.
Also have the 4.5-30x56 Delta Stryker Gen 2 w/DLR-1 on a Tikka TAC A1 6.5cm, bought the same way, definitely not disappointed by it, does what I want it to do. The Gen 3 is supposed to have an improved parallax adj and "better" markings on the turret, point is, if you are reading reviews, make sure which version you are reading about. I have no beef with the parallax on the Gen 2 and I can read the turrets just fine. If they improved them great, no beef with what I have.
Both track dead on, both are great glass. Seems to me on the 4.5-30x56 that Tract is about 100.00 more than the Delta, and it may just come down to whose reticle you like better. Tract has bigger knobs, Delta has a popup rev indicator.
I bought the Tract before they opened the Cdn website, they were super easy to deal with, sent all the paperwork needed with instructions that were really well done and simple. Took 2-1/2 months to get it, all said and done. That may have improved, but, they have had stock shortages, as I've noticed from time to time, so it pays to check that.
Bought the Delta from Tesro on a Black Friday sale, had it in 10 days.
So pulled the trigger last night for 4-30 ElR in MOA, its pre ordered ETA is mid November, the MRad is on stock, but prefer the MOA,my brain can just process MOA faster than MIL, lol
After considering other models , I think the Tract will be close to my need
Reticle, Schotts glass, made in Japan, the weight is on the heavy side, but for bench shooting I don’t it will be a big factor. Now the waiting
After considering other models , I think the Tract will be close to my need
Reticle, Schotts glass, made in Japan, the weight is on the heavy side, but for bench shooting I don’t it will be a big factor. Now the waiting
I have been using a Tract Toric 4.5-30X56 ELR MRAD on a custom .308 for a few years now. Thankfully you don't have to apply for an import permit anymore, to get one.
The optic I have that I compare it to is my Nightforce NXS 8-32X50 (Mil-XT reticle), and they are close in price.
The Tract adjustment knobs are bigger and actuate differently. Both rotate smoothly with discernable clicks when adjusting. Both have good parallax adjustment knobs and focus rings. The Tracts are ever so slightly smoother. The glass seems very comparable, with my preference being the Tract, however that probably has more to do with it being a 56mm vs a 50mm objective, and also having a bigger tube size. The reticles are almost identical, both in Mils.
It performed perfectly in temperatures below -25 C. I can't speak to toughness as I haven't abused it, but the Nightforce seems more robust to me.
It was a distinct improvement on the Vortex Viper HST 6-24X50 that performed reliably for many years (and is now on a different rifle), but at double the price I would hope so.
I haven't had any issues with the Tract Toric, so I can't speak to that side of Tract's customer service. The communication during the purchasing and import/export time was very good.
I think you will be very happy with your purchase. I don't regret mine.
The optic I have that I compare it to is my Nightforce NXS 8-32X50 (Mil-XT reticle), and they are close in price.
The Tract adjustment knobs are bigger and actuate differently. Both rotate smoothly with discernable clicks when adjusting. Both have good parallax adjustment knobs and focus rings. The Tracts are ever so slightly smoother. The glass seems very comparable, with my preference being the Tract, however that probably has more to do with it being a 56mm vs a 50mm objective, and also having a bigger tube size. The reticles are almost identical, both in Mils.
It performed perfectly in temperatures below -25 C. I can't speak to toughness as I haven't abused it, but the Nightforce seems more robust to me.
It was a distinct improvement on the Vortex Viper HST 6-24X50 that performed reliably for many years (and is now on a different rifle), but at double the price I would hope so.
I haven't had any issues with the Tract Toric, so I can't speak to that side of Tract's customer service. The communication during the purchasing and import/export time was very good.
I think you will be very happy with your purchase. I don't regret mine.
