Training Interest?

I would definately be interested in something like this, especially if in ontario, if not, well, I'll make the trip for the opportunity to learn from some of the best. I'm guessing this event would still be a long ways away, given the time needed to organize and arrange everything, get approvals, etc?
 
Guys - there will be limits due to the fact that Canadian Firearms Laws limit things.

We can tailor course to what people want.

Basic Pistol -> Intermediate Pistol ->
Basic Carbine -> Intermediate Carbine ->

Pistol/Carbine -> Team Tactics

Low Light

Basic CQB; no breaching, nothing too funky. I know BigRed is busting to teach his master breacher explosives stuff but...

Vehicle work -

* Some stuff will be off limits. We will not discuss IED construction or emplacement or anything that can compromise current TTP's for troops in Afghanistan and Iraq, and anything that is brought up that may endanger LEO safety


When I get my FFL in Va. we can look at doing some more funky classes down South - where the US G will vet you prior to giving you a form 6.



We want to give the Canadian firearms enthusiast - a good (safe) skillset in the lawful use of fireams. We actively want to encourage LE to come. Anything that give the Police and Mil a step up in their firearms skills is a good thing.
If there is interest - we can arrange closed courses for LE/MIL pers.


Due to the lack of SNC/Simmunition supporting civilians usage of Simmunition FX marking cartidges it does not appear that a viable Force on Force program can be fielded, unless anyone has any firends in low places at SNC...
 
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Kevin:

Formal commitment, pending conformation of cost and location to

-Basic carbine
-Basic Pistol,

and if ever offered basic shotgun.

PM incoming

Regards

AbH
 
I would be very interested. Want to learn the drills etc for using a carbine properly/professionaly as well as pistol.
Milcun would be a good choice, though a little light on strippers.
Regards,
John
 
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The CFO approves every civilian range in Ontario and has very specific limits on what can be done on each range...
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Thanks for the info. It's interesting how the country is bound by the same laws yet they are enforced completely differently depending on which province you're in.
 
Definately interested. Especially if there is enough heads up time to get the time off.

pistol, carbine, shotgun, lowlight, vehicle work..... interested in all those!!

Bernie
 
-Basic Pistol/Carbine -> Team Tactics
-Basic CQB
-Vehicle work
...all sound great. How about basic cqb w/pistol/carbine? Ah, what the heck basic all of the above.

With a few months notice. Slavex? RS? JL???
PS. Abbotsford?
 
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Pistol, carbine, low-light, vehicle work would be interesting to me, as would LE/Mil courses or something down south (I've been looking at tactical response, but if KevB and Big Red are going to run something I'd be more interested in that). Would there be min requirements for the courses? I don't own an AR (work in progress), only a CZ that I need more practice with and Reserve BMQ/SQ thus far.
 
As mentioned, there will be basic courses offered to all.

Courses like Vehicle tactics, Low Light, etc will have prerequisites. It's just not safe to immerse a brand new shooter into training of that type. It's also a waste of everyone's time to have one guy playing catch up on basic skills during an advanced course when the students are there to learn NEW material.

Some classes may be restricted LEO/Military only purely due to course content.
 
Big_Red said:
As mentioned, there will be basic courses offered to all.

Courses like Vehicle tactics, Low Light, etc will have prerequisites. It's just not safe to immerse a brand new shooter into training of that type. It's also a waste of everyone's time to have one guy playing catch up on basic skills during an advanced course when the students are there to learn NEW material.

Some classes may be restricted LEO/Military only purely due to course content.
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I really think the tactics course should have #### load of rehearsals before live firing - you don't necessarily learn anything from dumping rounds into the general direction. it is kinda fun to make noise.....but it is about learning the materials, not dumping rounds. And I agree that IED and all that stuff have no applications here in our safety land.

i will frame it around a Katrina scenario - how you will bug out with your families/neighbours in a convoy with very light weapons ( no grenades, no MG....and all those crew served mgs) How will you react if you get ambushed by a bunch of thugs - and if one of the vehicles go down, how you will evacuate your family members? How will you respond to hasty check points setup by a bunch of thugs who want to rob you clean? I think the training needs to be addressing some realistic scenarios - there are no RPGs and unlikely machine guns firing at us even if there is a natural disaster here. The training should address a realistic threat that civilians might be facing .( not zombies..... :) )

i think a low night tactics course will be most useful if it is done through force on force scenario - to be honest - using paintball or airsoft is as good if simunition is not available.

And.....I hate courses where people chit chat too much instead of doing stuff.
 
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damn I was hoping there would be a breaching and shape charge seminar :D

Everything else sounds good..unless its really far away.
 
Big_Red said:
A course can be tailored for nearly any range facility. The range layout itself need not be "realistic"...that can be worked on. However the powers in charge of the range must be cool with fire & movement type drills forward of the firing line and hot range style instruction.
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I have a solution for this however it is in Wainwright. PM me if you need more info, I could probably help.
 
I would definitely be interested. I have been through LMS Defense Carbine 1 and look forward to a variety of training.:)

Was supposed to be in LMS's Pistol 1 & Defensive Medicine this weekend, hopefully it will be rescheduled soon.

For me it would depend on location and timing.
 
Here is a suggestion for Ontario/Quebec region, why not team up with OSA, they have a private range, are very tactical friendly and have recently run a force on force training at their facility. They also make extensive use of military ranges with service rifle matches and recently they did a pistol clinic at Connaught.
 
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I really think the tactics course should have s**t load of rehearsals before live firing - you don't necessarily learn anything from dumping rounds into the general direction. it is kinda fun to make noise.....but it is about learning the materials, not dumping rounds. And I agree that IED and all that stuff have no applications here in our safety land.

i will frame it around a Katrina scenario - how you will bug out with your families/neighbours in a convoy with very light weapons ( no grenades, no MG....and all those crew served mgs) How will you react if you get ambushed by a bunch of thugs - and if one of the vehicles go down, how you will evacuate your family members? How will you respond to hasty check points setup by a bunch of thugs who want to rob you clean? I think the training needs to be addressing some realistic scenarios - there are no RPGs and unlikely machine guns firing at us even if there is a natural disaster here. The training should address a realistic threat that civilians might be facing .( not zombies..... :) )

i think a low night tactics course will be most useful if it is done through force on force scenario - to be honest - using paintball or airsoft is as good if simunition is not available.

And.....I hate courses where people chit chat too much instead of doing stuff.
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Excellent idea, real life scenario applicable to us civies.
Also using paintball markers is great, the objective is to learn the motions and practice the above scenarios. Live fire could then be used to learn about shooting technics and principles in the above theater.
 
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