Trap & Skeet Shotgun

Sniffer said:
Good looking gun.

So how often do you adjust the rib? Guessing it would need to be adjusted for each discipline owing to the different distances (although it sounds like you don't)?

Adjusting the rib could get tedious unless it has markings so it can be easily adjusted to make switching easy. Kinda like switching scopes on a rifle and having to sight them in each and every time.
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Think of it this way, in sporting clays, you will face any target that exists in skeet or trap, so a shotgun set up for sporting clays will work for any discipline. So to keep things consistent, adjust your gun to where it will work for you, and then leave it alone. Why complicate things?
 
Sniffer said:
Good looking gun.

So how often do you adjust the rib? Guessing it would need to be adjusted for each discipline owing to the different distances (although it sounds like you don't)?

Adjusting the rib could get tedious unless it has markings so it can be easily adjusted to make switching easy. Kinda like switching scopes on a rifle and having to sight them in each and every time.
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When I was just starting to shoot clays I had a Browning trap gun that was adjustable. One of the older shooters advised me to take the gun and the wrenches that came with it to the patterning board, adjust the gun so the pattern was where I wanted it and then throw the wrenches away to prevent being tempted to make adjustments if having a bad day.

You don't need to adjust the rib for each discipline but you could. Adjustments are easy and the rib posts are well marked. Were I to shoot trap exclusively I might raise the POI to 65/35 but because I shoot various games I leave it where it is.
 
stubblejumper said:
Think of it this way, in sporting clays, you will face any target that exists in skeet or trap, so a shotgun set up for sporting clays will work for any discipline. So to keep things consistent, adjust your gun to where it will work for you, and then leave it alone. Why complicate things?
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I will be honest, I don't know enough about the each discipline yet to fully appreciate this advice but it sounds solid / logical so thank you.
 
Arietta said:
When I was just starting to shoot clays I had a Browning trap gun that was adjustable. One of the older shooters advised me to take the gun and the wrenches that came with it to the patterning board, adjust the gun so the pattern was where I wanted it and then throw the wrenches away to prevent being tempted to make adjustments if having a bad day.

You don't need to adjust the rib for each discipline but you could. Adjustments are easy and the rib posts are well marked. Were I to shoot trap exclusively I might raise the POI to 65/35 but because I shoot various games I leave it where it is.
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That would only be a very minor adjustment based on your current setup from memory, so I see your point (not worth the effort to switch back and forth for such a minimal improvement).
 
Sniffer said:
I spend enough time competing every year in other disciplines to understand etiquette.

Anyways, thanks for your "advice" but I think I have had my quota, you can focus your energy on growing a thicker skin instead.
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Well, you did ask for advice and you got it, I can't help it if you don't like what you heard.

You assume that I need to settle down
You assume that I don't have thick skin.
You know nothing about me and yet you assume that you do.
You know what they say about assuming.
Glad you don't shoot where I do.
 
Falconflyer said:
Well, you did ask for advice and you got it, I can't help it if you don't like what you heard.

You assume that I need to settle down
You assume that I don't have thick skin.
You know nothing about me and yet you assume that you do.
You know what they say about assuming.
Glad you don't shoot where I do.
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I think we found something we agree on.

Hopefully you can settle down soon as being this agitated cant be good for you.
 
Mark-II said:
8.5"! lol I can only imagine how fast that sucker moves! I love a fast gun at skeet, but I have to remind myself to follow through.

Another quick little gun I like is the Browning Double Auto Twelvette. Someday I might find a skeet barrel for it, but it's a fun point and click gun for trap.

And great for a left hander like myself.

No one who sees it knows what it is. Shame - great little guns
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Its loud. The guys love the muzzle flash. It still breaks the clays
 
The one high rib ou I have thats adjustable for the comb and rib and buttpad I set up the ou barrel set to shoot flat 50/50 patterns for skeet at 21 yards and 60/40 for the unsingle barrel at 35 yards. I have not changed anything on it since the first outting with it to adjust everything. Its nice to know I could but in all reality I only bought it because I wanted to try a high rib gun
 
brybenn said:
The one high rib ou I have thats adjustable for the comb and rib and buttpad I set up the ou barrel set to shoot flat 50/50 patterns for skeet at 21 yards and 60/40 for the unsingle barrel at 35 yards. I have not changed anything on it since the first outting with it to adjust everything. Its nice to know I could but in all reality I only bought it because I wanted to try a high rib gun
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Do you feel the high rib is better?

Sounds like you have two barrel setups for that rig - was looking at these type of guns earlier. Are the barrel easily swapped?
 
Very easily swappable. Both the unsingle and the ou set share the same forend. For trap in the heat I do really like the high rib as it puts the rib above the heat mirage off the barrels.
As for skeet I shoot low gun so its not ideal shooting fast low gun with a big heavy high rib gun. I much prefer field guns that shoot flat.
My gun does balance and swing well I just find it too slow. It has 30" barrels plus extended chokes
Im sure some will say a long barreled high rib is better as the trend is longer barrels for clays. Truth is when I shoulder a gun and look down the rib I cant tell how long the barrel is. Whether its my 32" ithaca 4e trap gun or my 21" barreled 1301 comp the sight plain makes no difference. Its how the weight centers between my hands thst makes the difference

Theres various ways to balance out a gun. You can add weight to the center or to both ends. I dont like barrel heavy guns and I dont like heavy stocks that pull the weight back behind the action.
Everyone will have their preference and there's no right or wrong about it.
Ppl just seem all to quick to tell new shooters that only their own way is right and nothing can be better. Skeet guns were traditionally 26" barreled guns. Churchill won everything with his 25" barreled sxs. Those guns didnt just suddenly stop breaking clays. The industry just found ways to get ppl to buy more guns. The market is shaped by what is put in the professionals hands on the world stage
A longer heavier gun is harder to stop the swing. I've seen alot of new shooters swing in an arch instead of the targets line as they couldn't get the weight moving fast enough or they couldn't handle the weight thst far out from their core. On the other hand you watch ladies Olympic skeet and those 110lbs girls can really throw those 9lb+ perazzis and dt11s around like little wands. It comes with training and practice. If you follow consistent training you can learn to shoot anything well. Its up to you to decide if your natural ability and physical strength and mental attitude is up to the task.
Annie Oakley and Ad tupperwin are models of a style most wouldn't believe. They were shooting blocks out of the air with rimfires and those rimfires did not have 32" barrels lol

Start with the idea of having fun and enjoy the shooting. You'll make new friends at the various clubs and you'll try other guns and your tastes will change. You wont have just 1 clay gun either. I used to think sxs guns with dual triggers were stupid then I met a guy who introduced me to a high end double and I shoot it very well. He then let me shoot his Holland royal and I fell in love with double guns and been shooting them ever since and im always looking forward to my next
If you were local to me id let you try any of mine im sure there's ppl like me at any club you go to.
 
When I started shooting skeet in the 80s, most skeet guns had 28" barrels, but some people still used 26" barrels. Those shorter barreled guns had heavier contoured barrels, and heavy beavertail fore ends. Today's skeet and sporting clay guns have lighter contoured barrels and slim fore ends, and they swing very much like those older skeet guns. My F-3 with 32" barrels feels very much like my old Citori skeet with 28" barrels. Skeet is slow compared to some sporting clays targets, and 32" has become the common barrel length for sporting clays. My K-20 three barrel set has 30" barrels, and it feels about the same as my F-3, so it comes down to the particular shotgun, more than just the barrel length in inches.
 
The first Beretta semi i ever shot had a 32" barrel, swing it well at sporting clays, but i also shoot my old 1100 skeet 26" just as well.
To each his own but if you can find the model you like and In different barrel lengths thats great but for the average Joe (like me) standard 30" on an O/U are fine.
 
Sniffer said:
So who makes the Fabarm? Is it Turkish?

Sounds like your friend has had some of the best guns there are so it must be impressive. Price point seems very competitive.
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Fabarm has one of the most technologically advanced plants in Italy. They made all the Caesar Guerini barrels for the first few yrs for them. They test proof their barrels higher than any other manufacturer. Fabarm and Caesar are united now as one entity. Some remarkable stuff coming out of the shotgun valley in Italy
 
Buddy of mine ordered one of their new SxS Sporting guns. The Infinite RS !
Not sure when it's comin in tho.
They have a couple of switch rib guns available too...semi and O/U both. One rib is 50/50..the other is 65/35.
I'm lookin hard at the L4S All Sport...not sure why tho, ..just the want mees taking over the need its..LOL
I have a Winchester SX3 Sporting with the adj comb and 30 in ported barrel. I looked for about 4 yrs before I finally found it...few yrs back. Love it...it's an Awesome gun !!
 
kevin g said:
Buddy of mine ordered one of their new SxS Sporting guns. The Infinite RS !
Not sure when it's comin in tho.
They have a couple of switch rib guns available too...semi and O/U both. One rib is 50/50..the other is 65/35.
I'm lookin hard at the L4S All Sport...not sure why tho, ..just the want mees taking over the need its..LOL
I have a Winchester SX3 Sporting with the adj comb and 30 in ported barrel. I looked for about 4 yrs before I finally found it...few yrs back. Love it...it's an Awesome gun !!
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I handled an Infinite RS at a shoot in the states a couple of months ago and it's pretty impressive. The ergonomics were really good with 32 inch barrels nicely balanced with a pretty chunk of Turkish walnut on it. When I looked down the ventilated rib it was hard to tell that I wasn't shouldering an o/u instead of a sxs. At $6K USD msrp it isn't cheap but it's about what you'd expect to pay for a decent target gun these days.
 
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