trespassers on my property during hunting season!

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What would you do?

I have 145acre property in area 89B, there is very little crown land. The problem is I don't live there. The property is often crossed by locals some of whom I know. I have told them not to cross during hunting season and there has never been an issue.

Since last years hunt was partially ruined by an idiot on a dirt bike trespassing, who I found out had a terrible accident on a neighbouring property he was trespassing on , I have put up no trespassing signs. When i returned to my stands on the weekend one of the cameras was gone and one of the signs shot up with a 12g. I have had a deer cam up for the last couple of years with no problems until now. I have had to remove all the cameras as I do not want to risk them disappearing.

In my view the OPP and MNR will not patrol my property and not be able to assist until I catch the yokel and hog tie him.

I am considering fencing the trails leading in with barb wire and to bad for the idiot who does not see it. This would not be a trap simply a visible 3 line fence made out of barb wire to keep in our livestock or keep out yokels.

Anyone who $ucks with another mans hunting ground in my opinion should be hunted!

I know what to do when I catch him :kickInTheNuts: but any other ideas to prevent others from trespassing?
 
IMO install fences and gates. But be carefull that it is not a single wire. make sure it is visable, liability reasons.
The best way IMHO is to maybe offer one or two of the locals to look after your property when you are gone inturn for some usage on the land. They can spread the word that trespassers are not welcome and they can enforce it for you.
 
Tresspassers will be shot!
survivors will be prosecuted!!!
This message has been brought to you by Smith and Wesson LOL!!!
 
GSXRMyers said:
IMO install fences and gates. But be carefull that it is not a single wire. make sure it is visable, liability reasons.
The best way IMHO is to maybe offer one or two of the locals to look after your property when you are gone inturn for some usage on the land. They can spread the word that trespassers are not welcome and they can enforce it for you.
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agree that's the best way. Get the biggest meanest locals you can find...
 
Save your money on the fence the idiot will use snips and cut it. Put up a hidden camera on that trail and then show it to the authorities when you have the shot of the idiot trespassing
 
You could be held legally liable if someone is injured becasue you put up barbed wire or similar. Suggest a proper gate with red flag, then you'll have done your dilligence.
 
We hunt in 89B. We had a similar problem a few years back. We dropped some trees across the trail at the property line and made sure all the branches were spread liberally around the the trees. It made it more difficult to get in and gradually the trespassers became discouraged since they couldn't tear along the trail anymore as it took time to get around the obstructions. We have very little trouble up there now. We have escorted a few "lost" hunters off the property in the past. CdnGunner can tell you more.
 
lord-humungous said:
You could be held legally liable if someone is injured becasue you put up barbed wire or similar. Suggest a proper gate with red flag, then you'll have done your dilligence.
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Not if they are trespassing on your property. A simple sign and red warning flags are all thats needed.

Had the problem at a friend's ranch with hunters climbing over the wire fences (and thus wrecking them), so we electrified the top strand "to keep the cows in" and put a sign that simply said "Don't Touch, Or Else".

Seemed to work.... :evil:
 
lord-humungous said:
You could be held legally liable if someone is injured becasue you put up barbed wire or similar. Suggest a proper gate with red flag, then you'll have done your dilligence.
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Do you think that would be a real liablity? what if this fellow wanted horses or cattle, he couldn't put fence up then? I think the bright yellow no tresspassing sign should be warning enough. This is Canada, we don't sue over crap like that. I am pretty sure he would be protected because of the sign anyway. I know of a guy you has hidden spike strips set up on his hunting land. He has the no tresspassing signs well in advance. No tresspassing to me means no tresspassing and if someone wants to be a a-hole, he might need some sort of aditude adjustment. just my opinion of course.

Thought I would also mention this. I am involved with putting on atv derbies in my community. After talking to the RCMP, if you don't have signs posted, their is such thing as implied consent. I was informed that this goes for hunting as well. Which means if you have no sign posted, their is implied consent for tresspassing.

Good luck!
 
2Clip said:
Save your money on the fence the idiot will use snips and cut it. Put up a hidden camera on that trail and then show it to the authorities when you have the shot of the idiot trespassing
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This seems the safest approach. If the cops can't identify him, put an ad in the local paper telling everyone this is a trespasser who needs to be stopped.
 
We keep a really big bull, and signs, but people still raid our orchard and hunt on our land. Hopefully one day Keith (really big bull), teaches an opportunistic road hunter to read, and they spread the word.
 
Hire someone to watch it for you. Or allow them to hunt it a bit. They can police it. You can have them act as your agent. I have a few properties like this.

Spray paint red dots all over the property. I would go every 20 metres or so at the entry points. Red dots mean keep out.

Authorize the OPP to act as agents as well meaning the can charge a trespasser without you being there.

Best bet though again, is to find a serious bowhunter. He will respect your land, the animals, the opportunity and will take care of things for you.
 
Those dam old harrows, I keep losing them in grass and can never remmber where they fell off the truck!

You better check that implied consent with a CO, you can be charged for tresspass by even shooting a bullet off the road on to someones land!

Fluffie, is my friend, it is more than welcome on my land any day!
 
Honestly....

I have told many a farmers this and believe it to be Gospel.

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You need people using your land to keep tresspassers off. Be it hunting, wood cutting, whatever.

The people who tresspass and abuse other peoples property are cowards. If they see that there may be an increased chance of an altercation with a land owner they move on.

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I am in this area. I am always looking for a place to bush wack/ atv. Or even do some rabbit hunting. If you wouldn't mind someone else using your land, I wouldn't mind stopping in there every now and then to do a security patrol and maybe get rid of some of those nasty rabbits :).

This would also be a chance to bump into neighbours who might know who is ripping around on your property

The offer is there.......
 
bwery said:
Thought I would also mention this. I am involved with putting on atv derbies in my community. After talking to the RCMP, if you don't have signs posted, their is such thing as implied consent. I was informed that this goes for hunting as well. Which means if you have no sign posted, their is implied consent for tresspassing.
Good luck!
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You're absolutely out to lunch on this. In Manitoba you have to have permission written or verbal in order to hunt on private property. If you don't you can be charged depending on who you piss off. I'd suggest you find a more knowledgeable LEO before you start tromping where you're not supposed to be. Crap like that just gives all hunters a bad name.
 
Pretty sure that tresspass laws are provincial, just like game laws. If so, you really shouldn't be putting too much weight on what someone from out of province is saying as to what is or isn't legal, no matter how well intentioned they may be.
 
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