TRESPASSING Turkey Hunters

Trevor60 said:
HI Chilly

You indicated that the other guys were tresspassing on on private land and then stated



Any chance the access point the hunters are entering from is not posted? According to the Tresspass to Property Act. regarding posting

Markings under this section shall be so placed that a marking is clearly visible in daylight under normal conditions from the approach to each ordinary point of access to the premises to which it applies. R.S.O. 1990, c. T.21, s. 7 (4).

I am not condoning the hunters actions just want to maker sure that all your bases are covered if you confront them?
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Outside of the TPO, you are required to carry written permission for the property you hunt (If you are not the property owner). Most people disregard this, but you are legally responsible to prove in writing you have permission to hunt a property you do not own.
Secondly, these particular hunters have been verbally warned by the property owner also.
 
When's opening day???? Its the day before you see the guy with the jake decoy jammed up his ass! Are you not listening?

DB and company will be with me armed with the digital camera so the pics will be good! I'm not a soft spoken fella and DB ain't small.....so I imagine these arrow tossers are gonna absolutely crap their pants when the charges start being laid if they are stupid enough to ignore the warnings.

On another note the flocks seem to be breaking up and the toms are fighting for dominance. I saw three toms struting around nine hens the other day by these blinds and those toms where playing bumper cars with each other. It was like watching VW bugs bumping into each other for 15 minutes. The SBE 1 1/2 is gonna flatten em.
 
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Hey there CW, when did you buy the sub gun? I never heard of an SBE 1 1/2......

I hope those SOBs get hung from the rafters, but I did just detect one little thing in that last note about "arrow tossers"............if those scofflaws are card-carriers, I reckon you have one MOTHER of a fight on your hands. Or am I reading you wrong?

Doug
 
no these guys do not have a PAL or any firearms..just excaliber crossbows. Ran into them in the fall when they hung a stand ten trees in front of mine. No card carrying status there my friend.
I managed to snag a Benelli SBE 1 with a 26" SBE II crio barrel and a 24" slug barrel from a guy who will remain unnamed. I screwed a Kicks Gobblin thunder .665 ported choke into her and was patterning #6 Winchester 3 1/2" extended range shot through her on Monday. 40 yards = 23 lethal hits to spine and coconut. 20 yards = no head left on the target. Does a crio barrel make a difference??? the answer is a HELL YES!!! On another side note I went down to a fav roost tree to check out the droppings and found it absolutely crawling with mites...what does this mean? Warm enough winter not to kill them off so watch those dusting sights fellas...the birds will be hitting them hard to try and get ride of the bugs. 11am - 1pm is prime time for these locals. Picked up a Primos Limb hanger diaphrame call and man it gets top marks too! I can run the full sequence on one call now. Usually I've got at least three on my leg and drooling like a special kid on a glue stick.
 
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Yup same problem here. Unfortunalely these new guys have permission, but seem to think its ok to sit in our stands, or sit right across a 100 yard field from us eating their chocolate bars all morning. This one new guy has the nerve to bow hunt out of one of our stands, (we only rifle hunt for deer in this area) drop a deer and drive right through the standing grain field to get it. The owner thought it was us and was furious with us. Another group of guys are starting to intercept our deer now by hunting on property where NOBODY is even allowed to think of walking on to. It just gets more rediculous every year.
 
Forgot to add. Another group that we associate with on the same property that we are friends with, have taken their own action. That if these people become a nuisance, as with the new people on our property, to make a long story short, have found out that nice new wooden tree stands do make excellent fire would. Why is it that the we (being my group) hunters who have been there for many years and have done numerous years of homework, are now losing out. We have aquired new property over the last couple of years and have found out that there are other fellows on the property already. We have taken the initiative to meet up with these other chaps, find out where they are sitting or going to be and go from there, as we were not the first ones there. This way EVERYBODY is happy as there is generally room for a few guys here and there. Seems the good guys really do finish last.
 
These are the same idots that make all hunters look bad, and give us all bad raps. I've tripped over beer bottles getting to my ladder some ass dropped from my stand, then the same guy the next night poached a doe in the field beside my stand and drove his company truck with the name and number of the business on it to retrieve his doe as I watched with my bino's from my stand. One quick call with my cell and the warden met him on his way out of the field. Proof these nimwits are truly IDOTS.
 
HI DarrylDB

Sorry what is TPO (Tresspass act?)
I know these guys have already been warned but without proper markings of the property how would they know were the public land ends and the private land starts? I fully understand the written permission to be on private land. My question would be how would they tell it is private?

Chilly Willy said:
They travel a public trail and break off of it into the private property. The field is 350 yards west of public land through maple hardwoods!
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If you catch them in the exact same location then it it pretty cut and dry. If the property is small 10 acres then again it would be reasonable to assume they could identify that they were on private land, 100 acers not so much.
 
Trevor60 said:
HI DarrylDB

Sorry what is TPO (Tresspass act?)
I know these guys have already been warned but without proper markings of the property how would they know were the public land ends and the private land starts? I fully understand the written permission to be on private land. My question would be how would they tell it is private?



If you catch them in the exact same location then it it pretty cut and dry. If the property is small 10 acres then again it would be reasonable to assume they could identify that they were on private land, 100 acers not so much.
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Its a large farmers field (each field in the 100 acre mark, and multiple fences)... IM pretty sure they are fully aware. You are not required to have your property marked to lay charges under the TPO.
 
I know these guys have already been warned but without proper markings of the property how would they know were the public land ends and the private land starts? I fully understand the written permission to be on private land. My question would be how would they tell it is private?
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They could use GPS, Map & compass, or a clue. The hunter is responsible to know where he is hunting. How do you know which zone to stay in?
This isn't being done by accident.
On a side note, I just went out to my property on the weekend and found all my no trespassing signes stomped into the ground. How do you suppose that's going to make me react to the next dickhead I find on my property?
 
We have a couple of family farms, one with a small river going though it. Lots of problems with trespassers.

As far as marking go, the following is from the Ontario Trespass to Property Act:

Red markings
7. (1) Red markings made and posted in accordance with subsections (3) and (4) are sufficient for the purpose of giving notice that entry on the premises is prohibited. R.S.O. 1990, c. T.21, s. 7 (1).

Yellow markings
(2) Yellow markings made and posted in accordance with subsections (3) and (4) are sufficient for the purpose of giving notice that entry is prohibited except for the purpose of certain activities and shall be deemed to be notice of the activities permitted. R.S.O. 1990, c. T.21, s. 7 (2).

Size
(3) A marking under this section shall be of such a size that a circle ten centimetres in diameter can be contained wholly within it. R.S.O. 1990, c. T.21, s. 7 (3).



Additional text can be downloaded from the following link. It includes excerpts from the Ontario Fish and Wildlife Conservation Act and the Trespass to Property Act. The document is in Word format.

http://www.sandroad.com/downloads/trespass.doc

(this is my server so hotlink is OK)
 
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My neighbor and I caught a guy taking a crap on my property last year... he was parked beside a 30 inch No Trespassing sign. He had walked down onto my food plot and did his business in plain view of a 15 foot high Wack Shack.
I am sorry to say I came a little unglued on this poor kid... I blocked his car in and threatened to let my mastiff out to chew on him for a while.
I made him walk all the way back to my house and get a shovel and then stood there while he dug an unnecessarily large hole and buried his own s**t. The poor bastard was apologizing profusely and explaining that he had just moved out here from the city. He had been out drinking the night before, had broken up with his girlfriend and was severely hung over. He had been driving home and felt sick so he pulled into the driveway for an emergency s**t!
I felt a little sorry for him at this point so I took the time to explain how seriously rural people take their deer hunting and that taking a crap in front of a tree stand was paramount to rape in these parts!:slap: I asked him where he lived and what his name was and told him I was gonna stop by and talk to his parents. Poor kid looked even sicker when I told him that...:evil:
 
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