Trudeau and Blair BAN 12 Gauge and 10 Gauge SHOTGUNS!

FWIW, it would go well. SAAMI is a bit of an authority on these matters, to put it lightly.

If the choke is removable the Sammi method will sink you. It is not part of the gun, it is an attachment. It can easily be interpreted this way.
 
Your reference is measuring length, not bore diameter. You're looking the wrong way. I agree with what others have said, calm down people. I don't see anything to cause me to think my 12 ga is banned. Yet.......no doubt its coming at some point but not because removing the choke now makes it prohib.

"Forensically correct specification of a shotgun barrel" is all-encompassing. You're incorrectly assuming that a choke installed only impacts barrel length- that definition says otherwise.

It was likely not the intent of the prohibition, but it affects shotguns regardless. The point here is that either not enough due diligence was given to every implication of the prohibitions, or we're being lied to. Again.
 
Hey, Gravel Agency, being Remington people, you doubtless have a lot of guns in LE hands for shotguns and rifles. Are you going to continue to sell and service them for agencies who support this?
 
Hey, Gravel Agency, being Remington people, you doubtless have a lot of guns in LE hands for shotguns and rifles. Are you going to continue to sell and service them for agencies who support this?

In about a year LEO will be their only clients.
 
Laws and policy are more like the WWE than the UFC. Feelings over fact. True or not If you can get the 20mm OIC to stick to 12ga in the minds of the public it will help the cause.
 
Hate to say it, but it ''could'' be a good thing.
Get the hunters riled up instead of just filming us being thrown under the bus...

I tend to agree. Government bungling that shines more light on what a ridiculous government we have, and gets the hunting only crowd involved.
 
I don't even care any more. Heck, I'm sorely tempted to just take my AR15 to the range this week no matter what some slimy politician 3000 km away says...although I'd be less likely to get caught if I took it somewhere other than a certified range. That's irony :).
 
I gotta say that we should argue to make it stick - short term pain for long term gain. In any case I don't know if I find this more downright hilarious or super sad.
 
Sorry I'm just trying to understand this a little better...

If we have a Mossberg 500 and or a Remington 870, does this mean we have to give it up?
 
Sorry I'm just trying to understand this a little better...

If we have a Mossberg 500 and or a Remington 870, does this mean we have to give it up?

Yup. I bought a really nice Franchi I haven't even shot yet. Looks like we will throw rocks at geese this year. Maybe the 'Fudds' join the battle now?
 
Sorry I'm just trying to understand this a little better...

If we have a Mossberg 500 and or a Remington 870, does this mean we have to give it up?


No. Fake news.... Change the channel. These idiots are all focusing on something that gun lobbyists created to show trudeau being a liar and attacking hunters when he said he wouldn't. I'll bet my house a gun lobbyist drew this stretch from the 20mm rule and not the CFO or any politician. Listen guys. I have 3 guns on the list. I'm as upset as all of you. And fully plan to grandfather all of them. Or support whatever cause I can to get the government to overturn this. But this approach is moronic. Your all freaking out over something that can easily be dismissed in half a second. Then what? What's your next play? Is this what all my donation money has gone to? These are the guys we have fighting for us. What's the address for the gun drop off point, sounds like I'm going to need it.
 
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