"Trudeau Has ‘Secret Plan’ on ‘Sweeping Gun Ban,’

[jiffx2781]

Someone Repost this please

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[CyprusTM]

What we need in this country is to get rid of the constitutional monarchy and opt for a Republic. With a new constitution that would protect private property etc.

 

[sargto]

Living in the city, I don't bump into gun owners too often but I had a neighbour who was a hunter. One day he saw me loading up to go to the range and he asked what I was shooting. Told him it was a CZ scorpion. I'll never forget that eyes-wide-open and glazed look, followed by "now what use do you have for something like THAT!!?". This is what scares me the most about the future of gun ownership.

I had similar response a I pulled my AR out at the range, the guy next to said "I could never see the point in owning one of those given the hassles you have to go through to shot them" this as he's standing next to me shooting a revolver.

 

[JungerJager]

Was it Ottawa you spoke to? Lol

Not in Ottawa, it was in Alberta, after the Provincial Election, a day or so after to be exact, when said person was out to meet with Kenny and attend family events. I would likely bet he is back in Edmonton today with JT making a stop here.

 

[ramjet]

What we need in this country is to get rid of the constitutional monarchy and opt for a Republic. With a new constitution that would protect private property etc.

Exactly this, ##### the queen!

 

[Pocisk]

Letter sent, and includes the words; "Like Bill C-71, the Liberal government hasn't got a REAL plan to combat gun crime Mr. ********, it's an exercise in optics=the cheapest, most meaningless form of governance imaginable. You should all be ashamed of yourselves for C-71, let alone if something as unwarranted as this comes to pass."

Those letters are great for venting, but if you have a non-conservative MP they fall on deaf ears. Gotta start something like "As a lifelong Liberal voter, I am very disappointed...."

 

[rethius]

Email sent to my MP, and all members involved in this Bill.

If you haven’t at least wrote a simple email, then you are not doing enough and have nothing to say if the worst comes.

Every firearms owner must do something. Stop looking at the EE for 5 min and write an email.

 

[emerson]

I really don’t understand this country. Sugars kills over 40,000 Canadians every year yet not one mention of a controlled substance. Every kid can go and buy as much as they want. Alcohol kills more as well yet not one mention of a ban. Both of these substances overwhelm our healthcare system and drain millions of dollars out of our system. But Blair wants to take away something that generates millions of tax revenue every year. Any reasonably smart individual can see that this plan is simply to disarm Canadians. It has nothing to do with public Saftey or the value of a human life. The statistics prove this and are available to all of us under the freedom of information act, but I’m sure not for long as they will take that away from us soon. The government is just scared of us as currently we out number law enforcement by 100,000 to 100. I’m not sure why their scared as Canadians will never join hands and say enough is enough. These last few months have proved that as well. Home heating and cooking gas went up 13% (15-30% for businesses), hydro up 5.5%, fuel up 24 cents/litre, and property taxes up 2.88% and everyone is happy. We’re doing nothing about bettering our lives or our children’s lives, we just continue to pay ridiculous amounts of money to live in a country that dictates what we can and can’t do. I wanna clearly state that I’m not trying to start a riot or protest of any kind, just pointing out facts to back my story. Mind you a smart man doesn’t do what France did, a smart man stays at home along with the rest of us and shuts down the economy by not generating taxes or keeping the flow of the economy going. Again this will never happen in Canada so I’m not to worried about it. But it would be nice if for once we forced their hands. The queen bee is nothing without the worker bees, she would diminish in the matter of days. I for one will more than likely leave Canada if this bill passes. It’s not just about our firearms at this point, it’s about everything that’s happened and nothing is being done about it. I’m not gonna continue to generate all this tax revenue for a country that takes away things from me and fellow Canadians and on top of that continues to increase taxes and the costs of living. I’m sorry but there are a lot better places to live where the government actually looks after their citizens as they see without the citizens that country is nothing and so are their leaders. Don’t get me wrong I luv Canada and all its beauty, but enough is enough and Canada obviously doesn’t care about me. Good thing for our forgivable debt system and bankruptcy, makes it really easy to just up and leave with money in your pocket. I’m a business owner myself that generates a healthy profit for the government, yet I have no problem walking away from it tomorrow if I had to. I’ll even leave the keys in the door for the bank lol. I really hate that this is what it’s come to, but I’m not gonna live in a place where I can’t do my hobbies or where every year they take more money from me. Sorry but life is to short for this nonsense and there shouldn’t even be a proposed Bill about banning firearms. This government will always do what it wants without any input from us or our provincial leaders. They didn’t even fight for the carbon tax on our behalf. A true leader who looks after its citizens would have done more for us. That’s it, that’s all I got for my rant. Well there’s more but this is already turning in to a novel haha. On the plus side at least the criminals will get what they wanted all along, but than again Canada has always looked after criminals better than law abiding citizens.

Preach it brother! I have reached the same conclusions re. cost of living/taxes on those of us who work hard. Like you, I’m not a riot
or flaunt the law kind of guy. The less I make, the more others pay for my life. Living smaller and not being taken advantage of by those who mock and use me sounds good. We are in the process of downsizing our life so we can actually have one.

 

[.22LRGUY]

Those letters are great for venting, but if you have a non-conservative MP they fall on deaf ears. Gotta start something like "As a lifelong Liberal voter, I am very disappointed...."

You didn't see the rest of the letter. lol

I think I'm pretty realistic about the impact one letter (copied Bill Blair) makes, but have allot of faith in what's possible when lots of voices sound-off in opposition. Even more faith if the people writing them are tax payers of voting age. I always make sure to include that I'm both of those things.

 

[emerson]

Those letters are great for venting, but if you have a non-conservative MP they fall on deaf ears. Gotta start something like "As a lifelong Liberal voter, I am very disappointed...."

You sir, are genius.

 

[bush1]

Email sent to my MP, and all members involved in this Bill.

If you haven’t at least wrote a simple email, then you are not doing enough and have nothing to say if the worst comes.

Every firearms owner must do something. Stop looking at the EE for 5 min and write an email.

emails are one form but it’s far better to print your email in letter format, stick it in an envelope and mail it, no stamp required. An email can be just be transferred over to a dead file folder but an actual letter has to be opened and logged by a staffer. Ya it takes more time but once you start doing it and have all the mailing addresses listed, it goes quite fast.

One letter probably won’t make any difference but hundreds and thousands really do make a difference. One senator has remarked that they do.

 

[ogradyrw]

Justin and cohorts are praying to Satan that someone shoots a lot of people this summer so they can gathers emotions and ride first class into re election.

In other words my guess is they the globalist will set up a shooting and that will gain media attention 24/7 and all the gun owners and conservatives will be labeled evil and Justin wins eternal dictatorship and will rule with vengeance.

No Tin hat just speaking what you know Is a very possible move for the globalists.

Trump says “our creed is Americanism not globalism” Justin says “post nation state”

Sheer 2019
Trump 2020

I would not count this scenario out!

 

[Jmcc]

My opinion is you will see an OIC making presently restricted ARs prohibited. Not all semi-autos. A symbolic move designed to gain votes. Then if conservatives are elected, the order will be rescinded and they will be made restricted again. Swiss Arms anyone? Why would the liberals not do this? The general public hates the idea of an AR-15. Complacent gun owners will say with relief, "at least everything else is safe". If I were a liberal leader I wouldn't see a downside to this approach. They don't need a full ban for the votes they're after. Going after the AR-15 is gesture enough.

agreed that this seems like most plausible scenario

For the Gov the beauty is that all Restricted are already tracked.

Take the low hanging fruit

Everything that was Restricted is now Prohib (overnight)

Leave NR as is. say its because that's what hunters use but its really because they have no way to enforce it

The question becomes grandfathering and 12(x)
they don't want to be seen as letting the guns stay out there but they don't want to pay the HUNDREDS of millions in a buy back

 

[Milanczar]

There are 164 days to the October 21 2019 Federal Election.

 

[MountedMadness]

Although I have cut/paste my comments from another thread, I might suggest the following regarding our lack of property rights here in Canada. Though the following is a little long, IMHO both my comments and links are well worth reading to increase our respective knowledge on our rights or lack there of...

Although frequently used as a term of expressed frustration, TREASON in Canada is clearly defined under Section 46 of the Criminal Code.
Here's a link if anyone wishes to read it: https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/...l=treason#s-46

Also, the Oath of Office (various) can be reviewed at this link: https://www.gg.ca/en/official-oaths

AT NO TIME does the PM or Ministers of Canada make any oath regarding protecting the people of Canada - or maintaining the rights under our constitution as written and presented to Her Majesty by Prime Minister Trudeau and future PM Chretien.

Compare the Canadian Oath against that of the Presidential of the United States as follows:
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States."

There is NO Protection of Property Rights in Canada, unlike that in the US Constitution's IV (4th) Amendment (The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized).

Though it looks similar, our Canadian Constitution Act reads "Search or seizure Section 8. Everyone has the right to be secure against unreasonable search or seizure." Firearms seizures in High River by the RCMP is a prime example and has yet to be answered as to its lawfulness.

I dare say, that there might be a Charter challenge in the event that 'Tator Tot imposes a disarmament plan - it would take a Charter Challenge and at the very least the intellect and capabilities of a lawyer like Ms. Henein of V/Admiral Norman fame.

So I might suggest that you write your respective Member of Parliament and seek out their position on such things as 'property rights' being added to our Constitution.
Until then, the Governments of Canada can and will impose whatever legislation they deem necessary to limit Canadians in lawfully owning and enjoying the property they lawfully obtained without fair compensation.
Perhaps it should be included in any platform presented by any political party in Canada...

 

[Steve MKII]

Although I have cut/paste my comments from another thread, I might suggest the following regarding our lack of property rights here in Canada. Though the following is a little long, IMHO both my comments and links are well worth reading to increase our respective knowledge on our rights or lack there of...

Although frequently used as a term of expressed frustration, TREASON in Canada is clearly defined under Section 46 of the Criminal Code.
Here's a link if anyone wishes to read it: https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/...l=treason#s-46

Also, the Oath of Office (various) can be reviewed at this link: https://www.gg.ca/en/official-oaths

AT NO TIME does the PM or Ministers of Canada make any oath regarding protecting the people of Canada - or maintaining the rights under our constitution as written and presented to Her Majesty by Prime Minister Trudeau and future PM Chretien.

Compare the Canadian Oath against that of the Presidential of the United States as follows:
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States."

There is NO Protection of Property Rights in Canada, unlike that in the US Constitution's IV (4th) Amendment (The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized).

Though it looks similar, our Canadian Constitution Act reads "Search or seizure Section 8. Everyone has the right to be secure against unreasonable search or seizure." Firearms seizures in High River by the RCMP is a prime example and has yet to be answered as to its lawfulness.

I dare say, that there might be a Charter challenge in the event that 'Tator Tot imposes a disarmament plan - it would take a Charter Challenge and at the very least the intellect and capabilities of a lawyer like Ms. Henein of V/Admiral Norman fame.

So I might suggest that you write your respective Member of Parliament and seek out their position on such things as 'property rights' being added to our Constitution.
Until then, the Governments of Canada can and will impose whatever legislation they deem necessary to limit Canadians in lawfully owning and enjoying the property they lawfully obtained without fair compensation.
Perhaps it should be included in any platform presented by any political party in Canada...

Property rights are protected by the 5th Amendment's Takings Clause, not the fourth amendment. There is nothing comparable in Canada. And our charter is a joke. We have a right to be secure against "unreasonable search and seizure" which is left to the courts to decide. In the US they have a right "To be secure in their persons, houses, papers and effects..." It's clearly defined so the courts can't easily chip away at Americans rights like they can here.

Yes Canada's oath doesn't mean sh*t for the people, but our entire governmental structure is a joke and our constitution isn't worth the paper it's printed on. The US Constitution is perhaps the greatest document ever written.

 

[nansons]

Those letters are great for venting, but if you have a non-conservative MP they fall on deaf ears. Gotta start something like "As a lifelong Liberal voter, I am very disappointed...."

Only problem is if they see it came from Alberta they know that’s a lie.

 

[rick43pen]

Part of the Liberals commie little red book has always been a plan to disarm Canada. They've been chipping away for decades.

 

[Donny Fenn1]

Asking which leg is preferred when kicking down doors?

My MP is a useless NDP twit who is there to serve himself at the trough rather than the will of his constituents. So no help there

Wayne Stetski?

 

[squidxm]

A huge difference between a nation with big enough balls to stand up and fight for their independence than a simple ol’ British colony that serves her royal jackoff majesty.