Trudeau's Gun Ban and Buy Back

[Cameron SS]

Soooo, If I keep a registered AR15 that the government knows I have and has banned ownership/possession of that firearm, you expect me to keep it and become a criminal OR take $200 for it instead of just deactivating it so I can at least keep instead of it being destroyed by said government? Please explain how you think we can keep it if they enforce this assault ban?? I'm all ears! Do I want to continue to own my AR15's as is, of course, who doesn't?! I don't understand what you are getting at here CameronSS?? Help me understand.

Well, for starters, they will not enforce the assault weapon ban, just like they haven't proactively enforced 99% of what is already in the firearms act.

So the question is are you willing to own it as a criminal as a statement of protest, as millions of unlicensed canadians have been doing with near impunity for decades? If you own guns in Canada, you probably already are a criminal in some way or another, and if you have ever transferred a restricted firearm under the firearms act then you are definitely a criminal. Don't let that get you down: the whole point of the firearms act is to make firearms ownership so burdensome as to deter people from owning altogether.

And to be clear, no part of my post was ever meant to imply you or anyone else would be first in line to do anything. Just that if you EVER deactivate a firearm simply because the government banned it, then you are giving them what they wanted.

He is saying if we all stand firm...then nothing happens.

Yes, but not exactly nothing. IF we all stand firm and oppose, then the government will fold and back away from program. Marijuana didn't get legalized because people weren't smoking it. The repeal of the Non-Restricted registry and the commitment of ALL federal parties not to bring it back is proof of this concept in action in the firearms realm.

With restricteds there is a third option - to file the injunction. unless courts flatly refuse to take them as with Concealed carry permits refusals.

And really, there is no need to be so belligerent, he wants to dewat his firearms, his business.

In my opinion, appealing the decision to revoke your registration certificate and confiscate your firearm to a provincial judge is the Second option. First being to express your will at the ballot box. If laying the matter in front of a judge for a review of the constitutionality of mass revocation fails, then non-compliance is the third.

 

[demopeng]

...I simply said if it comes down to it, and we have NO CHOICE but to comply with the ban (cause we are at the point of being bought out), then I'll deactivate it and mount it on the wall as a piece of history/art.

If you found no new ideas from the few posts that predated your's, then I've got nothing else to say about it man. Best of luck with whichever of your two routes you choose to go.

 

[GTWhite]

Our fearless leader is an I D 10 T and a major EMBARRASSMENT to Canada he is definitely like a turtle on a fence post everyone knows he doesn't belong up there and nobody knows how he got up there! A vote for Max is a vote for liberals!

 

[MBaker]

If you found no new ideas from the few posts that predated your's, then I've got nothing else to say about it man. Best of luck with whichever of your two routes you choose to go.

Cheers buddy

 

[Cameron SS]

I simply said if it comes down to it, and we have NO CHOICE but to comply with the ban ...

You always have a choice.

What are you gonna do other then that? Send your family to the in-laws and barricade yourself in your home and wait for the cops to kick the door down to take your AR15?? haha jog on mate. Why are you lot making more of this then it needs to be??

I will not comply. Resistance is not futile.

Barricade yourself in your house waiting for the police? That sounds like a miserable lonely life and you will die of old age waiting because the police will never come.

When they banned full autos, the police did not go door to door to round them up.
When the published the prohibited by name OICs, they did not go door to door to round them up.
When they banned half the handguns in Canada, they did not go door to door to round them up.
When they created universal registration of ALL firearms, they did not go door to door to round up the unregistered guns.

NO municipal force will ever undertake such a massive operation without additional resources committed to their budget for the purpose. No Canadian politician would ever commit the full cost of mass sweeps of suspected owners to round up firearms. They never have, they never will.

Thinking the jack boots are coming for you simple paranoia. Governments starting at the face of mass non-compliance will simply pretend like its not happening, the same way the Canadian Firearms program has been pretending for 20 years that everyone who owns guns has a license, and that all guns subject to registration are registered, and that everyone always gets an ATT when they need one. Its a joke.

 

[can14]

You are wrong! The Provincial Firearms Officer's did come and seize prohibited listed firearms !
It happened to me a few times over the year's!
So don't fool yourself thinking the Firearms Community will come to your aid, because they won't, you will be on your
own in Court! Just what the Government is counting on! It has worked since 1978!

 

[Helka]

Buddy sent me this link.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/lilley-poll-shows-trudeau-gun-control-promises-firing-blanks

 

[5.45]

You are wrong! The Provincial Firearms Officer's did come and seize prohibited listed firearms !
It happened to me a few times over the year's!
So don't fool yourself thinking the Firearms Community will come to your aid, because they won't, you will be on your
own in Court! Just what the Government is counting on! It has worked since 1978!

Store stripped lowers in a bank vault. They cannot access it without a warrant, and it will be a lengthy and VERY expensive process to obtain and execute 50000 warrants to achieve nothing.

 

[sharpee]

It was very odd to read an article from a journalist that seems to understand the topic. Hopefully some of this information gets read by voters on the fence...

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/elec...athtakingly-stupid/ar-AAIaFdQ?ocid=spartanntp

 

[mmcintyre1220]

I've asked this many times before. Never got a satisfying answer. How do we not comply with our restricteds which are registered? They know we have them. They know where we live. They have the power to make non-compliance un-affordable.

Very simple....

 

[LordEvilPepper]

Store stripped lowers in a bank vault. They cannot access it without a warrant, and it will be a lengthy and VERY expensive process to obtain and execute 50000 warrants to achieve nothing.

if I get a call that they are coming... every receiver frame I have to turn in will be in a 5 gallon bucket of concrete (with a triger lock of course)riddled with rebar.
It will cos me $50,and it will take days to verify that i have indeed turned in my guns..... might give them a few buckets without guns too and tell them i can't remember which is which...

 

[GoodDoomguy]

You are a genius my friend. I have a few wine barrels I have no use for now they have a new purpose.
Just need concrete for all the barrels now.
And I certainly won't remember which barrels have lowers and which don't.

if I get a call that they are coming... every receiver frame I have to turn in will be in a 5 gallon bucket of concrete (with a triger lock of course)riddled with rebar.
It will cos me $50,and it will take days to verify that i have indeed turned in my guns..... might give them a few buckets without guns too and tell them i can't remember which is which...

 

[awndray]

Store stripped lowers in a bank vault. They cannot access it without a warrant, and it will be a lengthy and VERY expensive process to obtain and execute 50000 warrants to achieve nothing.

Great idea, if you can get an ATT to transport them to the bank.

 

[caramel]

Well trudo doesnt scare me at all, just bought another brand new AR10 yesterday, we will prevail, trudo is a non doer… Period.

 

[Milanczar]

if I get a call that they are coming... every receiver frame I have to turn in will be in a 5 gallon bucket of concrete (with a triger lock of course)riddled with rebar.
It will cos me $50,and it will take days to verify that i have indeed turned in my guns..... might give them a few buckets without guns too and tell them i can't remember which is which...

Possible Obstruction of Justice charges

Definition is broad such as interfering with police, investigation etc FYI

 

[demopeng]

if I get a call that they are coming... every receiver frame I have to turn in will be in a 5 gallon bucket of concrete (with a triger lock of course)riddled with rebar.
It will cos me $50,and it will take days to verify that i have indeed turned in my guns..... might give them a few buckets without guns too and tell them i can't remember which is which...

This might be one of the best comments I've seen on here all week.
Some additional considerations:
-make sure to go for some 50MPa concrete
-consider using some Helix reinforcement in addition to whatever traditional rebar you have dispersed in there
http://www.progressive-structures.com/helix---steel-reinforcement.html

As you can see from the C4 comparison, they will be having significantly more fun trying to figure out wtf is actually in that concrete.

 

[awndray]

Well trudo doesnt scare me at all, just bought another brand new AR10 yesterday, we will prevail, trudo is a non doer… Period.

Don't be so naïve. Trudeau doesn't need to do anything anymore. Bill C-71 gives the Blair, Goodale and the RCMP the ability to push bans through OIC.

 

[cras111]

I only go shooting maybe twice a year, am not much into the scene, and rarely come on here, but the announcement today got me off my duff to re-new my CPC membership and make a larger donation.

I would have loved to read that JT was going to commit $600m to fighting the importation of illegal firearms coming into our country, but apparently that will receive zero funding, while long guns with 5 round magazines locked away in proper storage will be confiscated.

The part that really bugs me is that if anyone anytime in Canada is found to have a handgun on their person, in their glovebox, or any other such location, registered or not, they are in big trouble, so by any rational means how will this help public safety?

Of course this will NOT help public safety.
This is NOT about public safety at all, libs don’t care about it.
The agenda is to 100% DISARM all law abiding citizens before next steps are taken.

 

[Maple57]

if I get a call that they are coming... every receiver frame I have to turn in will be in a 5 gallon bucket of concrete (with a triger lock of course)riddled with rebar.
It will cos me $50,and it will take days to verify that i have indeed turned in my guns..... might give them a few buckets without guns too and tell them i can't remember which is which...

Three thumbs up!!!!

 

[cras111]

Why is there no mention about doing something about illegal guns. Why not increase the penalty for illegal weapons and violent crimes?

Doing something about ILLEGAL guns is NOT in their (Libs) agenda.
Libs are actually DECREASING the penalties for criminals for illegal weapons and violent crimes.
They have totally different agenda.