Trudeau's Gun Ban and Buy Back

[rifleman762]

Firearms registered as complete rifles will be expected to be turned in whole.

They screwed up when they wrote the regulations because there is no requirement to update your registration if you make the firearm incapable of discharging ammunition (aka strip it down and sell the parts), only the other way around. So they can "expect" anything they want but if the parts are gone, the parts are gone. What you gonna do?

 

[Navy Gunner]

Gonna need a better source than "dude trust me" on this one chief. I'm not convinced.

Something I was told take it as you will. You do realize realistically they are most likely starting to plan for this and probably will follow the NZ model somewhat. You really think people will be offered top dollar for that $4000 AR? I hope it doesn't come to past, I have about 45 firearms I may have to turn in, more if you count my handguns.

 

[Navy Gunner]

They screwed up when they wrote the regulations because there is no requirement to update your registration if you make the firearm incapable of discharging ammunition (aka strip it down and sell the parts), only the other way around. So they can "expect" anything they want but if the parts are gone, the parts are gone. What you gonna do?

Fair enough, people will get the lowest price on their firearms when they turn in their receiver. They may be stuck with mounds of marred parts with the distant hope the AR15 will be legal again.

 

[rifleman762]

Fair enough, people will get the lowest price on their firearms when they turn in their receiver. They may be stuck with mounds of marred parts with the distant hope the AR15 will be legal again.

You are correct on that one. I don't want their dirty money, anyways. My guns are not an investment in money, they are an investment in freedom.

 

[CoonT]

If they win expect a swift OIC to immediately suspend all sales to prevent hording .

This absolutely.

I'm wondering if they're even going to wait for the results of the election? (The RCMP, I mean). Guys are sitting back, waiting and watching to see what's going to happen, as if the Fed's aren't fully aware of that very thing.

Just like the 10/22 mags, just like the Beowulf mags, even faster than any other "Surprise" we've ever had dumped on our heads.

 

[snipersyn]

They screwed up when they wrote the regulations because there is no requirement to update your registration if you make the firearm incapable of discharging ammunition (aka strip it down and sell the parts), only the other way around. So they can "expect" anything they want but if the parts are gone, the parts are gone. What you gonna do?

Interesting.

It would be logically problematic to enforce otherwise.

 

[rifleman762]

Interesting.

It would be logically problematic to enforce otherwise.

These are the requirements for informing the Registrar:

4 (1) Subject to section 5, the Registrar shall attach to a registration certificate that is issued in respect of a firearm the condition that the holder of the certificate shall advise the Registrar, within 30 days after the modification, of

(a) any modification to the firearm that results in a change of class of the firearm;

(b) in the case of a firearm registered as a frame or receiver only, any modification that makes it capable of discharging ammunition;

(c) any modification to an altered automatic firearm; and

(d) any modification that results in the firearm ceasing to be a firearm.

(2) Subject to section 5, the Registrar shall attach to a registration certificate that is issued in respect of a firearm the condition that when the type, action, calibre or gauge of the firearm is modified, the holder of the certificate shall advise the Registrar of the modification,

(a) if the modification is intended to be permanent, within 30 days after the modification; and

(b) if the modification is not intended to be permanent but still exists 30 days after it is made, without delay after that period.

The closest thing they could claim is changing the caliber but I don't think that would stand up in court. What caliber did you change it to through complete disassembly? (I am not a lawyer.) I'm sure the kind and honest policeman will firmly insist that you MUST turn in the complete firearm but since when do cops know what the law says?

 

[BlackVoid]

The closest thing they could claim is changing the caliber but I don't think that would stand up in court.

I plan on bringing a stripped lower covered in drawings of little multi colored #####es (LGBTQ colors, i have a nice enamel paint set) and argue that they need to give me more money as this is clearly a work of art.

It also will look great during photo op of "pile of confiscated assault weapons".

 

[inky]

Municipalities are the child of the provinces, Feds have no authority directing municipal governments, basic info Lib neglect

 

[JeffMan]

According to the CPA, it represents over 60,000 members. Is it safe to say these are all potential votes for the CPC?

I would suggest they will vote CPC. In my jurisdiction (that I won’t disclose) it’s nearly entirely CPC voters amongst Police.

 

[JeffMan]

If you're really a LEO I hope youre speaking to your colleagues and superiors daily and whole-heartedly about how poor an idea this policy is.

Yes. I’m spreading the word. There isn’t a lot of convincing required tho.

LEO’s already know that this is window dressing. COP’s know where crime guns come from already - we don’t deal with legal gun owners very often (as in; so statistically insignificant that it might as well be not at all)

 

[NeonGreen]

Yes. I’m spreading the word. There isn’t a lot of convincing required tho.

LEO’s already know that this is window dressing. COP’s know where crime guns come from already - we don’t deal with legal gun owners very often (as in; so statistically insignificant that it might as well be not at all)

how many of them would refuse to enforce a law to kick in a door and confiscate guns from "criminal by pen stroke" gun owners? how many would be willing to go from police officer to unemployed because of their strong beliefs? its a serious question, im not being argumentative, i don't know any cops so ive always wondered how many would stand up to their superiors and the government vs how many would justify it all away to keep the pension

 

[Nestor]

how many of them would refuse to enforce a law to kick in a door and confiscate guns from "criminal by pen stroke" gun owners? how many would be willing to go from police officer to unemployed because of their strong beliefs? its a serious question, im not being argumentative, i don't know any cops so ive always wondered how many would stand up to their superiors and the government vs how many would justify it all away to keep the pension

How is he suppose to answer that?

 

[dono18]

At the end of the day, the government knows what's best for it's citizens. These are some of the brightest minds in our country, and if they say banning assault style weapons will make Canada safer, we need to take their word for it. I will happily turn over any firearm which is deemed a danger to our society, and do so without the need to be compensated. I encourage you all to do the same. Let's make this country safe for everyone! And yes this is sarcasm/a joke. I hope nobody exploded reading this lol.

 

[NeonGreen]

How is he suppose to answer that?

carefully but honesty, or not at all.

he himself said he would not participate in a gun grab in a previous post, im curious how the majority of officers he knows might feel

 

[Nestor]

Think how many members here, I mean really, not just vocally on the net, would risk their own and their kids' livelihood to keep the possibly banned firearms. Many if not most are not in position to risk having a criminal record, despite loud declarations to the contrary. There is your answer.

 

[NeonGreen]

Think how many members here, I mean really, not just vocally on the net, would risk their own and their kids' livelihood to keep the possibly banned firearms. Many if not most are not in position to risk having a criminal record, despite loud declarations to the contrary. There is your answer.

thanks, but i wasn't asking you.

 

[Nestor]

You're welcome.

 

[Stoner99]

Think how many members here, I mean really, not just vocally on the net, would risk their own and their kids' livelihood to keep the possibly banned firearms. Many if not most are not in position to risk having a criminal record, despite loud declarations to the contrary. There is your answer.

Well they can get another job then. Also at this rate they won’t have a pension.

To be straight about this whole situation the Elites are making a strong case that only a fool follows or obeys any laws going forward in this country. The fact so many politicians get away with crimes, and no charges are ever laid is telling. The gun laws will only expand, and the bad policies of Government in general will continue too grow at the behest of shadowy figures who run the show behind the scenes.

Look at the sheeple comments by so many members here. All be seeking asylum on Mars at this rate. All the BS talk of morally standing up for trivial crap so many of you guys pump out, is all hot air. Lol.

Trumps America is looking better by the minute. Just saying.

 

[cras111]

These are the requirements for informing the Registrar:



The closest thing they could claim is changing the caliber but I don't think that would stand up in court. What caliber did you change it to through complete disassembly? (I am not a lawyer.) I'm sure the kind and honest policeman will firmly insist that you MUST turn in the complete firearm but since when do cops know what the law says?

What about:
4(1): (d) any modification that results in the firearm ceasing to be a firearm.?