Trying to get good.
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Yeah shaking hands, blurry sights from cranking your head down to the sights which leads to strain on neck muscles.....and the list goes on and can grow without somebody to visually confirm what you are doing on the range.
Try wearing plugs and a headset too, you will see an improvement in your accuracy with less noise distractions.
Try wearing plugs and a headset too, you will see an improvement in your accuracy with less noise distractions.
Heres another good one if no ones around ...throw a couple random dummy rounds in your mags here and there...it really tells alot about flinching and recoil anticipation that might be messing with your aim....if you get to the dummy round and your gun moves your more than likely flinching badly/anticipating recoil and its a good way to tell...
Random dummy rounds in some mags...tell ya alot about you.!!
Random dummy rounds in some mags...tell ya alot about you.!!
3 Hours usually.
Anyway is there a good source to get Glock parts? I've been searching "Canada Glock Parts' and looking at the sponsors. None of the big names so far stock Gen 4 recoil springs or trigger springs.
Taking the risk of sounding like some "metrosexual" , I have taken vids of myself (yea...I'm a rockstar!) during shooting sessions. These reviewed later are very telling and helpful...you are your own worse critic after all. Dry fire, having someone else load dummy rounds into your mags, .22 shell casing on top of the slide while dry firing...all these things help.
Videos are a horrible way to self diagnose, and by that I mean, it's ####ing horrifying to see what mistakes you make. Almost enough to make me puke the first time I watched a really good video of me. It was at the Kingston Nationals (not the last one there, the one before that). On one of the stages we had to run up a set of steps and engage targets through barrels or maybe large pipe, on the right hand side I think it was 3 separate spots all within 1 step of each other, plus a bit of a pivot. I engaged through the first one, pulled the gun completely back to my chest, pivoted to the next one, pushed out and engaged, pulled back and did it again on the next one. I'd never ever done that before, and after watching that stage I started to notice I was doing it all the time. Eating up huge amounts of time pulling the gun back and pressing back up, when all I needed to do was pivot and transition. Had I not seen that video I don't know how long I would've been stuck doing that. I have no idea where it came from as previous video didn't show it, and I certainly never practiced it. I still watch the video now and then to remind myself. ahhggggggg
Back to the Glock sights for a sec, had a chance to look down a brand new Gen III slide tonight, with factory crap sights on it. When leveled the front sight dot had about 0.5mm of the bottom it's outline obscured, barely enough to even tell that it was happening. That pistol also just happens to shoot POA/POI at 10yds with level sights.
Back to the Glock sights for a sec, had a chance to look down a brand new Gen III slide tonight, with factory crap sights on it. When leveled the front sight dot had about 0.5mm of the bottom it's outline obscured, barely enough to even tell that it was happening. That pistol also just happens to shoot POA/POI at 10yds with level sights.
Read the post above and comply. FIVE YARDS
When you can place all rounds inside a 2" circle or smaller, then move the target back... FIVE YARDS AT A TIME MAX.
TDC
Negative sir
Oh, you mean that stock Glock that oddly enough shoots POA/POI with stock sights?TDC
mudgunner49
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Seriously, what is so hard to understand here?? Not that I'm a rockstar Slavex clone or anything but I start ALL my practice sessions with 50 rounds at 5m at 1" target patches and don't move on until I've got 5 rounds either in (preferred) or toucning (acceptable) the 1" square or the 50 rds are all done - it's been awhile since I've actually had to make it to 50 rds though.
I call it quits when I hit 200-250 or I start to see a degradation of time when shooting whatever drills I'm working on - newer shooters should probably strive for excellence with every shot and stop sooner. If you don't know what you're doing wrong and you're pounding 500 rds a session down-range you're just reinforcing bad habits. You don't know what you don't know (unconscious incompetence)...
You need to go to the range with a goal other than making noise and looking cool or you'll never get better at any really measurable rate.
I call it quits when I hit 200-250 or I start to see a degradation of time when shooting whatever drills I'm working on - newer shooters should probably strive for excellence with every shot and stop sooner. If you don't know what you're doing wrong and you're pounding 500 rds a session down-range you're just reinforcing bad habits. You don't know what you don't know (unconscious incompetence)...
You need to go to the range with a goal other than making noise and looking cool or you'll never get better at any really measurable rate.
I learned to ski without an instructor. When I finally had an instructor, she said "You have gotten very good at skiing badly. It might be too late to teach you the proper techniques."
Get an instructor. Learn the basics. Practice doing it right.
I can shoot a pistol quite well - slowly. My groups go to hell when I pick up the pace. My future practice will work on that.
Well, we've argued about some fundamentals till we were blue in the face, so we might as well start arguing about techniques to deliver said fundamentals now... lol
If a gun is moving around in one's hands, the solution is squeeze more.
Squeeze as if you were crushing the grip front to back with your trigger hand, and side to side with your reaction hand.
I also roll my elbows towards each other slightly to take elbows bending out of the equation.
Once you start gripping pistols like this, you will:
1) stop calling your off hand, weak.
2) learn how to truly isolate your trigger finger to do nothing but press the bang switch straight to the rear.
3) start to watch your front sight barely rise up from the rear sight
4) shoot faster and more accurately than you ever thought possible, and start understanding how those pro's go bangpingbangpingbangpingbangping so damn quickly when shooting steel...
Can-down, I'm not saying you can't shoot, just using your comment as an example for new shooters to learn another tidbit of info.
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I can relate to this^^^. During a wknd Defensive Shooting Course were movement was involved e.g.. walking (forward, backwards, lateral) I missed more targets than I hit! But was it ever fun
I've since changed out the OEM polymer sights to Trijicon Night Sights and guess what...they didn't make me shoot better but they certainly look nicer IMO.
Your not trying to say there is no advantage to grip tape or any type of grip that gives you a more secure grasp?
I didn't mention grip tape or any aftermarket grips in my post, and certainly never said "no advantage".
Now that you ask though, I feel their benefits pale in comparison to a strong squeeze.
My go to gun has no grip tape. It's a gen 4 g19 and covering that texture with anything but my skin would be foolish.
...and this finally answers Can-Down's question. The grip on the Gen 4's is quite good, excellent actually and I am not at a want of grip tape on my G17 Gen4, just sights that horizontally level "ON" target rather than under it. (in actuality I've learned around it...just getting back on topic is all. Go-go gadget flamesuit!)
