Tt-33
- Thread starter Jergro
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I also read about the slide stop not being fully engaged. I will try to ensure that it is next time.... but the rounds not feeding properly is an issue, wonder if putting 10 rounds in the mag had anything to do with it - might be a weak spring?
antiqueguy
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never run czech surplus through a tt33 its much hotter then notmal the czech pistol can take it and so can sub guns but this old war horse shuld not be run with it
give the gun a good cleaning make sure no cosmoline in the gun barrel/chmaber and under the extractor some times after it heats up it wil cause problems just like mosin nagant sticky bolt
give the gun a good cleaning make sure no cosmoline in the gun barrel/chmaber and under the extractor some times after it heats up it wil cause problems just like mosin nagant sticky bolt
10 rounds??? they only hold 8??
Is not problem of hero pistol of Soviet Union. Problem comes from decadent operator. Pistol tries to serve, but lazy capitalist fails to keep mighty TT-33 clean! Pfui!
Be scrubbing chamber of mighty hero pistol with many generous application of Hoppe's Number Nyet. Comrade pistol was for fighting Hitlerites in Great Patriotic War! Comrades of Soviet Republics are winning that. Gun range in Canada is like Walt Disney Land for comparing. Maintain Comrade Tokarev, and he will strive to serve in struggle against Fascist stovepipe jams and partial ejections!
Hurrah!
LMFAOOO!!!
love it!!!
Clean the gun...and clean it again. Took a few hours for me to clean it...used lots of boiling water...shot it some a few days later and cosmo was oozing out of the gun...cleaned it again once I was home...and now its finally good to go!!! 
Focus on the chamber...put a brass brush wrapped on some rags soaked in cleaner on a hand held drill and clean it that way...clean the firing pin and the ejector really well too.
Focus on the chamber...put a brass brush wrapped on some rags soaked in cleaner on a hand held drill and clean it that way...clean the firing pin and the ejector really well too.
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can not fit 10 rounds in it, are you sure you have the right ammo? should be 7.62x25TT
I'm second guessing my self now, I did take several of my hand guns 'all of whom take 10 in the mag except for my 1911, but i think cleaning it again and not using frog lube and going back to grease and oil will do the trick. I also have to confirm that the slide stop is fully engaged. maybe the loud snap of that ammo might have distorted my memory.
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The Tokarev pistol, and most clones save the Yugoslavian M57 with its longer grip, has a magazine designed to hold 8 cartridges of 7,62x25mm ammunition. If you loaded 9 or 10, it has definitely been modified.
You can see the follower has a ‘tail’ at the back, which I measure just under 23,5mm. This limits how far you can push the follower down, normally to just a hair over the 8 round capacity. Load any more, and there's no way the tail is original.
The mag. body itself is just over 10 cartridges tall, but the compressed spring below it will take up some room; I doubt even a tail-less follower would allow 10 shots, without also altering the spring.
A source (the Tokarev Do Everything Manual) gives a relaxed length for the mag. spring as between 6-1/4" to 6-3/4". If it is outside this range it is worn or intentionally stretched or cut, and should be replaced. (Count the loops on the picture, there's 15,5 of them plus the short one under the follower*.)
If the spring was cut (weaker), and the follower modified so it might tilt while feeding, it will certainly lead to problems just like you describe: soft feeding as you take more rounds from the mag.
How many magazines are we talking about, just two matched to your pistol? It would be odd, but maybe the previous owner performed this modification to personalize his gun. With an un-issued Polish model that's less likely. I have received mag.s still packed in grease, where the spring or the bottom plate were in upside-down, so someone at the arsenal doesn't necessarily know what they're doing.
It may be possible, carefully, to grind the tail of the follower enough to allow a ninth round in the magazine to still feed reliably with some testing. Loading that last round will be tough, though, as the spring must be pressed down to its absolute limit. It's more trouble than it's worth, to me.
*This may be different depending on the country of manufacture.
You can see the follower has a ‘tail’ at the back, which I measure just under 23,5mm. This limits how far you can push the follower down, normally to just a hair over the 8 round capacity. Load any more, and there's no way the tail is original.
The mag. body itself is just over 10 cartridges tall, but the compressed spring below it will take up some room; I doubt even a tail-less follower would allow 10 shots, without also altering the spring.
A source (the Tokarev Do Everything Manual) gives a relaxed length for the mag. spring as between 6-1/4" to 6-3/4". If it is outside this range it is worn or intentionally stretched or cut, and should be replaced. (Count the loops on the picture, there's 15,5 of them plus the short one under the follower*.)
If the spring was cut (weaker), and the follower modified so it might tilt while feeding, it will certainly lead to problems just like you describe: soft feeding as you take more rounds from the mag.
How many magazines are we talking about, just two matched to your pistol? It would be odd, but maybe the previous owner performed this modification to personalize his gun. With an un-issued Polish model that's less likely. I have received mag.s still packed in grease, where the spring or the bottom plate were in upside-down, so someone at the arsenal doesn't necessarily know what they're doing.
It may be possible, carefully, to grind the tail of the follower enough to allow a ninth round in the magazine to still feed reliably with some testing. Loading that last round will be tough, though, as the spring must be pressed down to its absolute limit. It's more trouble than it's worth, to me.
*This may be different depending on the country of manufacture.
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- On a resonably direct route in NS
i wonder what would happen if somebody was to use 9mm rounds....
I've never tried 9x19 in a 7,62x25 chamber with live ammunition, but I did try it with snap caps: the slide locked completely with a round jammed under the extractor and in the chamber. Took a bit of light pounding to get it apart.
The cartridge specifications of the two rounds are nearly identical in diameter (less than 0,2mm or a few thou); you will fit the same number of rounds in a magazine.
The 7,62 has a neck and shoulder, but the main body of the case is nearly the same length as the straight sides of the 9. The projectiles are different sizes, the Parabellum is obviously almost 1,5mm wider. This means it will fit in the Tokarev chamber, but the wider bullet will jam in the necked portion and/or the lands of the rifling.
You'd have more luck going in reverse: the neck of the Russian round might stick into the barrel of a nine past the chamber.
I would never attempt to make this a live fire experiment.
