Turkey Hunting a**hole Shot My Dog !!! ? Updated May 8 By 88 Man

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I took my 2 beagles out for a run this morning and one of the beagles came back with about 3 #4 shots in her hip and one in her front end.None are in her as I gave her a really thourow check.I guess some idiot out there does'nt know what a turkey or a beagle look like when they see them.I was on private property with about 500 acres and I was the only one able to be there but know now that does'nt mean s**t !
All I can say is what goes around comes around and paybacks are a real ##### !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

88
I value my hounds just about as much as my wife so you mess with them you mess you me.

This is updated on fact not fiction on tues may 8 !!!!!!!!!
I did talk to the land owner last night and he told me I WAS the ONLY one with permision to be on his property and that he had allready kicked 3 turkey hunters off his property since the season opened and one of the idiots tried to tell him HE WAS THE OWNER !.

#1- I WILL say my hounds will NOT CHASE turkeys as they live will both chickens and turkeys in their pens TOGETHER so they mean nothing to them period.Boney can testafy to that !
#2-The collar that was on the dog had a pellet in the ridio sending unit and the antena was cut off so the signal would only go at the most a 100 yds compaired to about 12 miles,ask anyone who has radio collars and they'll tell you this themselves.
#3- Even if my wife and I take our house dogs for a walk in the woods I put my tracking collars on them so I know where they are if they don't want to come back.
#3- The land owner heard the shot and knew it was on HIS PROPERY.I am 3/4 deaf so I would not hear a shot if it was more than about 200yrds away and I didn't have my hearing aids in and don't have them in when I take the hounds out,too costly to loose.This is why I couldn't tell how far the shot was but have the land owner to back me it was on his property.
#4- I have been feeding the coyotes there for yrs and there's 3 dens on the property.
#4- I HAVE a license to run my hounds in the summer for fox or coyotes during the day.This licence is FREE of charge at the local MNR office,I don't do anything ellegal and make sure I know what I'm doing is proper !
#5- These 2 beagles I took out was the first time they have ever been out of the pen ( other than loose around the house ).Anyone that knows anything about hounds knows that any young dog (6 mon old ) out of their pen for the first time ( even their 10th time ) WILL NOT RUN ANYTHING let alone go very far from their owner.All they want to do is play and explore and don't know what a deer,rabbit,fox or coyote scent is so wont chase anything ( see #1 ).
#6- I know for the reason given in #5 that there's no way possible these 2 beagles were doing anything wrong other than being beagles PERIOD ! This comes from about 25 yrs of raising hounds as other hound men will tell you as well !

I hope this clears things up that neither me or my hounds were doing anything wrong from start to shotgun wounded animal finish.The guy that did this was and is 100% in the wrong.I hope he has enough brains to keep his mouth shut.My hounds are treated like gold !.They are NOT JUST HOUNDS,
they ARE FAMILY and HUNTING BUDDIES.You f**k with my hounds,you f**k with me !
Would you shoot your hunting buddies !!!!!
Yours truly
88 man
 
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I did hear a shot but thought it was from further away than I thought but I guess not.The shot marks are in places were they just passed through the skin on her very hind end,one broke the tip of her tail off the the other just grazed her front shoulder all leaving marks where the pelet grazed the skin.
 
That's frickin' rediculous:mad: What the hell posesses people to do such stupid things. Well it's good to hear your pooch is for the most part ok, thankfully she didn't get any shot in the face, or eyes.
 
Glad to hear your dog is okay. And I don't blame you for being pissed.

What is it about turkey hunting this year? There have been a couple of pretty serious incidents, more reports of tresspassing and I've heard of a couple of near misses in our part of Ontario.
 
Man oh man.. If someone shot my dog... They better hope I don't catch up with them!!!

Cheers
Jay
P.S. Here's hoping you dog is okay!
 
I know lots of ppl that would shoot a dog if it wandered on their property while they were hunting. theres a little beagle at was on my lawn couple days ago trying to knock over my little sisters gerbal cage . he's lucky we seen him before he got the cage knocked over or he would of got some turkey shot in his ass too.


but theres no excuse for that as long as your on your own property or where you had premission.
 
And also after taking the radio tracking collar off her there was a pellet in the collar as well.It took me quite a while to find her and that would be the reason why,the collar was'nt putting out the signal it should have been.I'll have to send the collar back to be repaired in the US now too.
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Being the devils advocate here but

If you didn't see it happen then you obviously couldn't see your dog, what are the chances that your dog was chasing turkeys and someone was just doing there duty and taking care of the problem. I mean your talking about beagles here, they are designed to chase game.

Not sure about Ontario but in B.C. if you see a dog chasing game then you can shoot it on sight. I know if I was set up and had some turkeys coming in and some dog came and tried to snag one for himself I would do the same thing and launch a few shots at it too. (See Page 3 post 23 before you jump all over me, I mis-quoted the livestock act not the wildlifle act, poo-poo on me)

Don't get me wrong I think its a crappy thing to have your dog shot at but you also have to realize that your dog might not be the angel you think he/she is when your not around and being tempted by the thoughts of cranberry sauce and stuffing.

hope it heals up well.
 
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I'm sure glad your dog is ok. :)

I find it odd that many hunters deeply love their own dogs, yet I hear so many comments on the board about shooting other folks pets being ok if it crosses onto the wrong property.

A pet is a pet, and I consider my pets family. The last guy to use a weapon against one of my family probably still pisses himself at the sound of a shotgun.
 
Brambles said:
Being the devils advocate here but

If you didn't see it happen then you obviously couldn't see your dog, what are the chances that your dog was chasing turkeys and someone was just doing there duty and taking care of the problem. I mean your talking about beagles here, they are designed to chase game.

Not sure about Ontario but in B.C. if you see a dog chasing game then you can shoot it on sight. I know if I was set up and had some turkeys coming in and some dog came and tried to snag one for himself I would do the same thing and launch a few shots at it too.

Don't get me wrong I think its a crappy thing to have your dog shot at but you also have to realize that your dog might not be the angel you think he/she is when your not around and being tempted by the thoughts of cranberry sauce and stuffing.

hope it heals up well.


He mentioned the fact of being on private property, so assuming the dog never left the property there shouldn't have been anybody there to shoot it. What if it had run over the property line? Well if somebody thinks it's OK to shoot it, and the law says it's OK also, the one pulling the trigger better think about wounding the animal. I don't care if it's wild, or domestic, if you're going to shoot it you make damn sure you're going to kill it. Wounding an animal and letting it run off with out following up is :bsFlag: That "hunter" and I use the term loosely in this case, likely has no idea what he did to the dog.
 
bronco_mudder said:
He mentioned the fact of being on private property, so assuming the dog never left the property there shouldn't have been anybody there to shoot it. .


So what your saying is that its ok for your dog to chase animals if it doesn't get caught or its on private property and those deer or turkeys or moose, whatever, don't have the same rights as public land animals.

The fact that he is on private land isn't the point, so someone was tresspassing, not the issue here.
Sure he had the illusion that he should be all alone and should be able to let his dogs run freely, thats great, but its a hunting dog in hunting season. I always keep my dog in eyesight and have trained him that way, he actually doesn't wander more than 10 or 20 feet while sniffing around.

I'm not even debating the fact that having your dog get shot is a terrible thing,
I'm just saying that people always think there dogs are just an innocent bystander " couldn't be my dog, he's as gental as a kitten" meanwhile you're dog just ate the neighbors chickens.

I'm not trying to stirr sh*t or rag on the guy, it sucks that his dog got shot, and who knows the circumstances? doesn't even sound like he knows!!!!

He says he took the dogs for a run "and when it came back"?????? it had pellets in it. Where was your dog? What were you doing?

As you can tell I'm not an advocate for letting a dog run around unchecked and unsupervised. While master is away the dog will play...
 
Brambles said:
Not sure about Ontario but in B.C. if you see a dog chasing game then you can shoot it on sight.

Sorry bud, but that's total BS. :bsFlag:
As a hunter it isn't your job to play CO...even here in BC.
Only first nations poachers do that crap. :rolleyes:

Also shooting someones pooch in the woods because you perceive it on the loose can net you a charge of causing distress under the animal cruelty act.

Not to mention the possibility of getting into a nasty firefight deep in the woods with someone who isn't happy someone used their dog for target practice.

Not very smart IMHO. :rolleyes:
 
Brambles said:
So what your saying is that its ok for your dog to chase animals if it doesn't get caught or its on private property and those deer or turkeys or moose, whatever, don't have the same rights as public land animals.


Don't put words in my mouth, or try to read between the lines. I never implied any underlying message. I agree with you that dogs shouldn't be out running free. Its harassing wildlife, and shouldn't be tolerated. As I said though, if you're going to shoot it, you don't just fire a shot, or shots at an animal and let it run off.:rolleyes:
 
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