Turkey Hunting a**hole Shot My Dog !!! ? Updated May 8 By 88 Man
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Just a little legal correction there...
In bc it is not legal to shoot a dog on sight for chasing game. It's legal for a CO to do it. It's illegal for the dog to chase the game. But the law is fairly clear, it doesn't allow you to destroy the animal just because it's doing something illegal.
Now... how many co's would get worked up about it.... well that's another story. And it wouldn't be a CRIME per se as far as i understand, but you WOULD be open to civil litigation and possibly fines of some sort.
But you can't smoke an animal just for chasing wild game.
You're right Foxer
My facts got crossed from the B.C. Livestock act to the Wildlife act
Dogs causing injury or damage
11.1 (2) A person may kill a dog if the person finds the dog
(a) running at large, and
(b) attacking or viciously pursuing livestock.
If you brought this up to a judge in the event that you shot a dog chasing wildlife I don't think the charges would go very far, in my eyes there should be no difference between the protection of livestock and wildlife.
My facts got crossed from the B.C. Livestock act to the Wildlife act
Dogs causing injury or damage
11.1 (2) A person may kill a dog if the person finds the dog
(a) running at large, and
(b) attacking or viciously pursuing livestock.
If you brought this up to a judge in the event that you shot a dog chasing wildlife I don't think the charges would go very far, in my eyes there should be no difference between the protection of livestock and wildlife.
Yeah, i've done that. It gets confusing.
I'm not sure there WOULD be any charges. I'm not 100 percent sure what they'd charge you UNDER.
I think you'd have to buy the guy a new dog tho, and pay associated damages and the like due to Civil liability.
Well 88man do you know the dog stayed on the property?
Did anyone else have permission to hunt it?
If the dog did stay on the property & no-one else had permission to hunt it, I'd be hunting for a poacher & tresspasser with a little fire in my eye
On the other hand a little common sense would dictate taking a hunting dog out for a run during turkey season is probably not the greatest idea, especially so soon after the does have dropped their fawns!
To the guy that has a dog trained to stay at his feet...good for you, you have a great pet, hope you enjoy your Poodle but were talking a real hunting dog here, if my beagle stayed at my feet during hunting season I wouldn't be near so proud of him, in fact I'd be so embarrassed I'd leave him at home for the wife to cuddle
Did anyone else have permission to hunt it?
If the dog did stay on the property & no-one else had permission to hunt it, I'd be hunting for a poacher & tresspasser with a little fire in my eye
On the other hand a little common sense would dictate taking a hunting dog out for a run during turkey season is probably not the greatest idea, especially so soon after the does have dropped their fawns!
To the guy that has a dog trained to stay at his feet...good for you, you have a great pet, hope you enjoy your Poodle
but were talking a real hunting dog here, if my beagle stayed at my feet during hunting season I wouldn't be near so proud of him, in fact I'd be so embarrassed I'd leave him at home for the wife to cuddle Im with Senior on thias one, and just to add...
Brambles said:H4831 said:Read the rest of the thread before you get all in a huff
Why should he, I still think your being a ####ing idiot, and I read the whole thing...
Personally, If I was in the midst of bringing in a big tom and some beagle came blazing in and chased it away, I'd be some pi$$ed.
I wouldn't shoot the dog however. I may entertain the thought of putting a couple into the air and try to scare him a bit.
I'd probably be more prone to finding the owner and asking him if he had a habit of letting his dogs run wild in the off season and let them harass the wildlife.
Now, this of course all depends on property. IF, the dog was on private property where I had sole access, I'd be mad as a hatter.
IF, I was on crown....well....not much you can do really.
Regardless of the scenario, I would NOT shoot the dog. Not his fault regardless. Being a Beagle, he's probobally smart, stubborn and pig headed, with a hard-on to run through the woods like a madman.
I wouldn't shoot the dog however. I may entertain the thought of putting a couple into the air and try to scare him a bit.
I'd probably be more prone to finding the owner and asking him if he had a habit of letting his dogs run wild in the off season and let them harass the wildlife.
Now, this of course all depends on property. IF, the dog was on private property where I had sole access, I'd be mad as a hatter.
IF, I was on crown....well....not much you can do really.
Regardless of the scenario, I would NOT shoot the dog. Not his fault regardless. Being a Beagle, he's probobally smart, stubborn and pig headed, with a hard-on to run through the woods like a madman.
But this all took place on his OWN property...44fordy said:
from the other side of the coin, If you owned a good chunk of bird property,and had some #######s tresspassing on your property, and shooting your birds, wouldnt you be happy the beagle was ruining their day?
Had it been my dog, I would have quickly returned home, got X, and would have gone on a hunt of my own...
My dog is my family... Shoot my dog, and you may a well have shot a relative.
88 man said:
I'm curious to understand who owns the property you were on, and how you (know) were the only person with access to this 500 acres. Were you dead center in the 500 acre block or just along the boundary of the property? A simple but obvious point since if you were on the boundary of the property the dog could easily have wandered onto someone else's land.
Personally now for my opinion on this subject...
If I was on private property and I knew I was the only one entitled to be there (apart from the actual landowner) and someone shot my dog, then I'd be mighty pissed. BUT the fact that this happened outside of your sight and obviously hearing range tells me that the dog was ranging too far. If it's so far from you that you could not tell that the shot(s) you heard were at your dog, well then it's just oo far away.
It coulda been chasing deer, turkeys etc... it may have wandered off the property. In which case I'd only be pissed at myself for being so stupid as to not have control of the animal.
The other day I was sitting in my back room and all of a sudden a couple of mule deer came bounding out of the bush. Next thing along comes a dog that was definitely chasing these deer, and then along comes the dog owner and he stops to pat the dog. It looked like he was congratulating the goddamn dog for running the deer, but I don't know that... but the situation pissed me off. That dog should have been on a leash and not free to stress the damn deer like that.
IMHO any dog that is chasing game needs to be controlled by the owner! That is the correct answer here, although if I were a landowner and a dog was running on my porperty I would shoot it. Right or wrong, it's my property and I would not allow stray dogs to be on it, and I'd understand anyone else that did that...
NO PET IS EQUAL TO A PERSON. The people that are making statements like they would value the dog the same as a family member are nuts, IMHO.
Demonical said:
You'd shoot a dog on your property, for harassing a game animal, but wouldnt take issue with someone shooting your dog...
An animal that grazes on your property has more rights in your mind than one that lives in your house...
I bet your family (if you have one) loves you.
Sounds like somoene else is nutts to me...
DarrylDB said:
I made it pretty clear that I would be pissed about someone shooting my dog. Read my post again.
But saying #### like you'd run and get a gun and go have a fight or something like that... c'mon man.
And yes I would shoot a dog that wandered on my property, because stray dogs running loose happens to be a pet peeve of mine.
The fault is the dog owner(s) btw... the dog is just being a dog...
Hmm... death just for just being a dog doing what your bread to do...Demonical said:
NO, no c'mon man, we're talking about two different things here...
this isnt a stray dog running on your property, this is you walking your dog off the leash on your property, your dog takes off for a bit, and comes back shot... All on your property, or one you ahve exclusive rights to... Keep in mind this dog had a radio callar on it... Hardly a stray, and hardly running on YOUR property.
some ####### shoots my dog, on my property is going to have a big big issue on their hands, there is no other way of looking at it...
Lots of hound men exercise their dogs in the spring and the summer. Beagles are generally not a huge threat to wildlife not even fawns... you heard him say he had a tracking collar on it! A newly born fawn is scent free and the doe would just drag the dog away from her fawn before it became an issue. And if that dog had started tongueing hot any good hound man would have used the locator and pulled him off of the chase.
I kept Beagles for a lot of years and ran them year round, I never had an issue with them harrassing wildlife but I did have one of them shot by an idiot once. I cannot provide details... statute of limitations...
I kept Beagles for a lot of years and ran them year round, I never had an issue with them harrassing wildlife but I did have one of them shot by an idiot once. I cannot provide details... statute of limitations...
Here's a pet peeve of mine. Gun owners who do stupid things. Shooting a dog that just wandered on to your place and isn't doing any harm falls into that category. If I'd taken that same approach I'd be shooting dogs on a regular basis and I'd be the most hated man in the district.Demonical said:
The reason I don't shoot dogs for just wandering on to my property is because when the owner of the dog catches up to you and you've murdered his beloved family pet it gives the anti-hunting types one more reason to push for local bans which is exactly what is happening in my township.
