Turkish Trash Pistol Failure SAR9 WARNING GRAPHIC

polaris said:
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Even in your wildest dreams, it is just not possible to support a Nazi regime when purchasing a K98.
Same is true for a Russian SKS.

On the other hand, to purchase contemporary products from nations like Turkey and China is considered to financially supporting these nations, and therefore condoning their murderous politics and systematic human rights abuse.

You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to get this, or do you?
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Nailed it.

The brainlets are REALLY trying to draw analogs where they don't exist, just to justify their garbage purchases because they couldn't come up with an extra $200 to buy something that's properly engineered or not from a terrorist dictratorship.
I've had Turkish companies offer me their products in the construction industry where I am and I had to turn them down because of the Erdogan regime. Their defense was "not all Turks are Erdogan" but that doesn't fly because Erdogan gets wide support among the voting population in Turkey.
 
Thanks everyone for explaining what Turkey has now become.....so sad as it was a secular state.
Should have been removed from NATO long ago. I will not buy Turkish guns or Chinese guns....if I could only avoid all things made in China, it's just tough.

Back to quality control....very important when you put your face behind high pressures.

Rich
 
Suther said:
You're not getting my point. IMO buying a product from Turkey is not supporting ISIS or the Turkish government. At least with China there is a valid argument to be made about state-owned enterprises, but as far as I can tell Girsan and Canik are privately held companies.

To me, what you are saying is akin to saying buying American supports ANTIFA.
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If the government was funding Antifa then yes it would. You don’t think turkeys government is receiving tax revenue from the manufacturing and exportation of there firearms just because they’re a privately owned business?!??
 
Brutus said:
Turkey was once realigned to partial civility by Kemal Ataturk (sort of) in 1924 he recognized the super danger of religion and state in partnership and forbade this under federal law enshrined it within a reformed constitution.

Now Turkey has seemingly forever a yes, ultra nationalist state. Almost cult like obedience demanded of its citizens. My previous line about reform means absolutely nothing to the much too early dead Arabs, Syrians, Armenians, Greeks, Cypriots and Kurds put into the ground by Turkish soldiers.

To this day when NATO Awacs surveillance aircraft fly into Turkish airspace, these other NATO partner escort fighters are replaced by two seater Turkish jet fighters.
Merely to jam NATO satelitte signals (Turkish ground imagery) received by the AWACs.
Once they leave Turkish airspace the other NATO jets replace them in escort formation.

Turkey is just barely a NATO partner.
Lots of dead Cypriots could attest to that if they could speak.
Now did ENOSIS play a significant part? Yep.
The 1974 invasion of Cyprus would have been impossible without American helicopters and American wink. I blame mostly Kissinger for this silent agreement to look the other way.

Edit; Folks. What I find very interesting is the dislodgement of the Muslim Brotherhood seeking the seat of power in nearby Egypt recently.
It was unseated in a coup. A military coup to arrest mooslim califate/committee exactly, I mean exactly, as called for in nearby Turkey and its Ataturk reformed constitution of 1924.
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So this is what’s called being full of it… Cypriots: They started killing Turks, in the name of Megalo Idea. Search for Enosis, Eoka, Nikos Sampson. Turkey had to use their guarantorship position to save Turkish civilians… Araps killed more Turkish if you look at the broader history, they stab them at the back during WW1. Armenians, Greeks, they used to be Ottoman citizens; Greeks upraised with allied nations, Armenians with Russians. They actually killed more than 5 Million muslims. During WW1. Greeks burned whole villages, towns, search Aydin and Izmir burning pictures…

Nato; Nato has been backstabbing Turkey last 15 years… Erdogan, which I do not support a bit, has public support because of Nato’s and USA’s positions in Syria, Northern Iraq. So sad Usa decided to create Isis and partner with certain Kurdish groups (who were ex PKK leadership) to fight Esad, rather then partnering with Turkey. Nato and USA messed up big time in Afghanistan, they are almost in a similar situation in Syria and Iraq. Western nations should realize, nothing much can happen in the region if Turkey won’t agree to it…

Also, keep in mind, Turkey has the second biggest army in Nato, nothing can happen in the ranks of it if Turkey won’t accept…
 
Sassybee said:
Taking money from China is good. Giving them money is bad. Are you confused?



Turkish taxes support ISIS. Businesses and citizens pay tax, turkey bad. Easy enough to follow?

The US gov does not support antifa(ok, the socialist Democrats do but I digress) and as retarded as they are, they aren't murdering thousands of people annually.
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Turkey arrested more than 3000 Isis members in the last 5 years and tried to send them back to their country, including Canada. Most European countries, and Canada refused to accept them. Turkey killed more Isis terrorist then USA and Russia combined. There are more than 4000 of them in prisons in Turkey at the moment. You’re right, tax money in Turkey goes to Isis, for the extermination purposes…

You need to look into who created isis at one point…!!!
 
I just want to point out, that yeah, while Turkey and China have horrible track records for human rights (or the lack there of), you are aware that the US, and any of its partners (including our once great but sadly fallen nation) through its clandestine CIA and economic actions, have pretty much turned this world into the skat show it is? Nobodies hands are clean these days.
 
Hitzy said:
That's a strange failure...for the striker to blow out the back with that much velocity, there had to be several things going on, a pierced primer isn't going to do that kind of damage for example.
Even a case failure should not do that sort of damage, the breech face would have had to fail on the slide for the striker assembly to launch into buddies face.
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Official report is not out, there are rumors it was due to bad ammo… There is no other SAR 9 got broken like this…
 
podlesok86 said:
So in addition to being illegal and unlicensed copies of guns developed by people who actually did the engineering and testing, the ethical violation of giving any money to a country run by a dictator who does business with ISIS, these things will also fail in ways you wouldn't think possible.

Pic below is from a Russian user who saved himself $200 compared to a properly engineered and manufactured design from a reputable manufacturer, but lost himself an eye and some important nerve connections in return.
Looks like a Sarsilmaz SAR9 but it could just as well be like one of those Canik (cynically sold here as "Canuck") things.

GRAPHIC!:
https://imgur.com/a/tWD8Jlk
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So sad you have no clue what you're talking about... Turkey is part of the European Customs Union, there are many agreements in place against piracy, intellectual property theft. International Law in Turkey, per the constitution, comes above the national law. If there was any patent or intellectual property infringement, I'm sure the owner of such patent or property would sue and stop manufacturing/distribution of such products...

Poor individual in the picture is a Turkish Policemen. He was injured during his monthly qualifications course using his issued SAR 9 pistol. He is fully recovered and back on duty... The official report is not out yet, but rumour is that explosion and damage to the gun were likely due to ammunition. That being said, subject ammo was also produced by the same group of companies so one way or another it will end up being the fault of the Sarsilmaz group.

Glocks have similar explosions, revolvers, etc... How many of those you have shared I wonder...!!! You should do a little more research before distributing misinformation...
 
Rich LPS said:
Thanks everyone for explaining what Turkey has now become.....so sad as it was a secular state.
Should have been removed from NATO long ago. I will not buy Turkish guns or Chinese guns....if I could only avoid all things made in China, it's just tough.

Back to quality control....very important when you put your face behind high pressures.

Rich
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Just so you know, no one can remove any NATO member against that country's consent...

Quality Control: This is the only SAR 9 going through such an incident... Have you heard of 6 Sigma?
 
Thorsbear said:
So did the company send the user a new slide? Just curious if they honored the warranty in case I buy one of those
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Media in Turkey covered this story in detail; Sarsilmaz took good care of the officer, his gun was replaced and a hefty settlement was reached...
 
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