Type 81 another importer

I have handled and owed a few of these T81 rifles now and they are much better quality than a Romanian WASR 10 AK that sell for about $700usd . WASRs have non chrome bores , more sharp edges , lots of mag wobble and many have canted sights . At the same price I would take a T81 hands down.
 
The Type 81 as we KNOW is not an Ak, but it was built on the same tactical principle... These rifles are not designed for semi-auto accuracy, they are used by guerrilla forces around the world for close quarter full auto. Although not a sub-machine gun operationally it us used the same. So you take a gun that was not designed to be an accurate target rifle and sell it to Canadians who are target practising and only have the semi-auto feature; you are going to have complaints as you have a market using the gun for it's unintended purpose! If you understand this you along with those who understand this may enjoy owning such a rifle. When it comes to QC, again you are purchasing a rifle that has a completely different idea of what QC is! Do you really think the taliban who never clean nor maintain their AK's or a group of kashin guerilla's with their 81's are sitting around worried about a slight misalignment, machine markings and sharp edges??? This is the kind of demand and expectations these rifles are built for and pass it's intended QC perfectly....

The Type 81 will never be your target rifle, you will be forced by our regulations to use it in its unintended purpose and the chinese don't give a crap that it doesn't pass your idea of qulaity control.... If you can't get your head around that then simply don't own one.... it is what it is!!!!

Wow, you like to make a lot of assumptions. You took the liberty to assume I care about accuracy, I assure you I don’t. You wont find a post of mine that complains about accuracy, I couldnt bcos I havent fire one yet. I returned it immediately and it took months before I could buy one else where.

Lets dissect your rambling post. Firstly, you are wrong about the Chinese not caring about accuracy (not target accuracy), go check the history of the type 81, you will find they tried to improve the accuracy of the type 56 (ak47) with the development of the type 63 and the type 81 essentially came from the type 63.

Secondly, I didn’t know the Taliban never clean their AK. Not one? Ever? Really? (I guess they really want to meet their maker.) Since im no Taliban, I wont know what they are thinking or worried about but im certain they didn’t pay $1000 for theirs. Btw, were you once a Taliban?

Thirdly, the Chinese not giving a crap about QC, maybe the government who is selling it at a deep discount don’t but polytech who has been selling to the north american public for almost 40 years do, they have come along way but still not there and the type 81 proves it (since we been told only a handful was bent). How could they not? it’s a weapon and regulated industry as you said.

look, any developing country has poor QC, like japan did 50 years ago, the old adage was it wont last and it was true, datsun rusted away but look at them now. they are in jd powers quality list.

And finally don’t buy one as you so kindly suggested I should do, thank you. But not owning one doest mean I cant talk about it. The last I checked we were moving to the left, I didn’t know we have moved all the way to north korea. Lol.
 
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China not giving a crap about their QC is a good thing, if they started going the way of Japan and producing mostly high quality products imagine wat that would do to North Americas manufacturing industry! They would wipe so many more industry's out than they already do.

I highly respect u and ur posts Curtton, but I'm with SKS45 on this. The type 81s are probably a $400 CAD gun to produce tops, mass produced and mass issued. Given those characteristics why would anyone expect the Chinese to care if things are a little misaligned?
The Russians are no better in in some cases, look at the T34s, mass produced, crap castings and workmanship in other places. But cheap, durable and highly effective.

As for the type 81 SA's, I got a good hunch that tactical imports just marked them up a fair bit to make it worth their while and then some.

Just like the SLR's it was high demand, low supply, and they took advantage of it. Can't honestly blame them for that. (Unless they start making up lies to justify the price)
 
China not giving a crap about their QC is a good thing, if they started going the way of Japan and producing mostly high quality products imagine wat that would do to North Americas manufacturing industry! They would wipe so many more industry's out than they already do.

I highly respect u and ur posts Curtton, but I'm with SKS45 on this. The type 81s are probably a $400 CAD gun to produce tops, mass produced and mass issued. Given those characteristics why would anyone expect the Chinese to care if things are a little misaligned?
The Russians are no better in in some cases, look at the T34s, mass produced, crap castings and workmanship in other places. But cheap, durable and highly effective.

As for the type 81 SA's, I got a good hunch that tactical imports just marked them up a fair bit to make it worth their while and then some.

Just like the SLR's it was high demand, low supply, and they took advantage of it. Can't honestly blame them for that. (Unless they start making up lies to justify the price)

But China won't have a choice, labor cost and cost of living will eventually drive the price up and consumers will not settle for the same poor standard of quality, that's what happened to Japan, right now their advantage is low price and poor quality but in a several decades they will be the next Japan and another developing country will take it's place.

You are assuming bcos it's a $400, they dont care but the figure is to your standard, to them it's a lot of money but all this doesn't explain if they don't give a sh*t about QC then why arent all rifles have the same issue? Why isn't the fixed bent too? Thats what I like to know.
 
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So apparently one can find straight folder. Just need to look for "old import" :)

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BTW as a guy who is on the fence buying one of these cause of the bent barrels... Vid 2 in this article has Jim Fuller breaking down exactly why the barrel is bent for those of you (like me) who didn't quite understand what was happening. Has to do with the trunnion becoming crooked in the receiver during riveting due to loose tolerances and not being corrected/compensated for properly... Difference between one of these and a $2400USD Rifle Dynamics gun!

Just FYI!

https://www.itstactical.com/warcom/...-ak-with-the-rifle-dynamics-ak-builder-class/

Edit: oops, dead post my bad lol
 
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