Type 81 - Info, Pics, How & When to Order, etc. * POLL ADDED! * pls vote :)

Will you be buying a Type 81 on the first import batch from TI?

  • Yes

    Votes: 192 25.0%
  • No

    Votes: 355 46.2%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 221 28.8%

  • Total voters
    768
I hate Norinco as much as the next guy, But at least I handle them and shoot them before saying they aren't worth it. lol...
 
Ive never owned a norinco but I can't judge a book by its cover. Even vz58s had growing pains and they cost more than this.. I'm willing to give this a shot as I've been following it since the first announcement years ago.
 
To put something into perspective for you guys, someone linked that Guns & Ammo article, and it mentions that the Type 81, sold to foreign armies, used to sell for $175 USD, fifteen years ago.

The article also mention they were built on the exact machines that are used to make the Type 56, which sell for under $100 USD. So given these metrics, and factoring in inflation in price, we're talking about around $350-$425 CAD maximum sold to a dealer, for these rifles. The guns are nothing more than stamped steel, a barrel and some wood.

This is the main reason why there's debate in this thread. You can't markup a rifle way passed the point of it's MSRP. $1000 is a f*cking joke. The Norinco M305's definitely use, pound for pound, more steel, more wood, more milling and more fitting than any stamped steel rifle coming off of an AK platform, and they're $600 dollars.

People should be waiting for the rifles to come in country and have retailers go head to head on pricing. This WILL be a massively popular rifle in Canada, and therefore, we shouldn't be locked into the Tactical Imports pricing and model depiction.
 
To put something into perspective for you guys, someone linked that Guns & Ammo article, and it mentions that the Type 81, sold to foreign armies, used to sell for $175 USD, fifteen years ago.

The article also mention they were built on the exact machines that are used to make the Type 56, which sell for under $100 USD. So given these metrics, and factoring in inflation in price, we're talking about around $350-$425 CAD maximum sold to a dealer, for these rifles. The guns are nothing more than stamped steel, a barrel and some wood.

This is the main reason why there's debate in this thread. You can't markup a rifle way passed the point of it's MSRP. $1000 is a f*cking joke. The Norinco M305's definitely use, pound for pound, more steel, more wood, more milling and more fitting than any stamped steel rifle coming off of an AK platform, and they're $600 dollars.

People should be waiting for the rifles to come in country and have retailers go head to head on pricing. This WILL be a massively popular rifle in Canada, and therefore, we shouldn't be locked into the Tactical Imports pricing and model depiction.

That article also said those price projections were based on large number military scale orders.

Not something like an order of 1000 guns.

Context is different.
 
Yeah like all of these. and I'm still adding a Type 81 to my collection. Did I mention I hate side folder today yet ? The SKS is the most boring of all the X39 rifles BTW.

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Your dislike of the side folder probably has nothing to do with the stock itself, but a function of that crappy slant brake. I would hate it too if I was trying to shoot like that. Try something else on it.
 
I just like how nice and compact it is compared to the other brakes. The barrel is long enough as it is...lol... Hopefully it does the trick.
 
To put something into perspective for you guys, someone linked that Guns & Ammo article, and it mentions that the Type 81, sold to foreign armies, used to sell for $175 USD, fifteen years ago.

The article also mention they were built on the exact machines that are used to make the Type 56, which sell for under $100 USD. So given these metrics, and factoring in inflation in price, we're talking about around $350-$425 CAD maximum sold to a dealer, for these rifles. The guns are nothing more than stamped steel, a barrel and some wood.

This is the main reason why there's debate in this thread. You can't markup a rifle way passed the point of it's MSRP. $1000 is a f*cking joke. The Norinco M305's definitely use, pound for pound, more steel, more wood, more milling and more fitting than any stamped steel rifle coming off of an AK platform, and they're $600 dollars.

People should be waiting for the rifles to come in country and have retailers go head to head on pricing. This WILL be a massively popular rifle in Canada, and therefore, we shouldn't be locked into the Tactical Imports pricing and model depiction.

Unaltered AK mags would do it for me.

2 very good points
 
To put something into perspective for you guys, someone linked that Guns & Ammo article, and it mentions that the Type 81, sold to foreign armies, used to sell for $175 USD, fifteen years ago.

The article also mention they were built on the exact machines that are used to make the Type 56, which sell for under $100 USD. So given these metrics, and factoring in inflation in price, we're talking about around $350-$425 CAD maximum sold to a dealer, for these rifles. The guns are nothing more than stamped steel, a barrel and some wood.

This is the main reason why there's debate in this thread. You can't markup a rifle way passed the point of it's MSRP. $1000 is a f*cking joke. The Norinco M305's definitely use, pound for pound, more steel, more wood, more milling and more fitting than any stamped steel rifle coming off of an AK platform, and they're $600 dollars.

People should be waiting for the rifles to come in country and have retailers go head to head on pricing. This WILL be a massively popular rifle in Canada, and therefore, we shouldn't be locked into the Tactical Imports pricing and model depiction.

I agree. These are $600~$800 Rifles. $1000 is way too much to pay for this Rifle and ONE extra mag.
 
My 15.5" VZ58 looks, feels and performs - awesome (paid $649 for it)...
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The finish on that Type 81 looks awful... almost like someone brought it into the spray paint booth. I'd rather see bluing than parkerizing. But hey, I'm not buying one. Maybe it looks like a million bucks to you guys. I bought a Henry Golden Boy and I have a hard time shooting it, it's so gorgeous (and it wasn't $1000).

Maybe the actual run will be nicer than the prototype, as that's pretty underwhelming.

I dont mind the look of parkerizing, and I like the looks of the rifle. As stated in the thread before this was beat to hell by the RCMP for years. The stock was also painted instead of the normal finish. Also vreat looking vz! And damn that is a nice price!!
 
To put something into perspective for you guys, someone linked that Guns & Ammo article, and it mentions that the Type 81, sold to foreign armies, used to sell for $175 USD, fifteen years ago.

The article also mention they were built on the exact machines that are used to make the Type 56, which sell for under $100 USD. So given these metrics, and factoring in inflation in price, we're talking about around $350-$425 CAD maximum sold to a dealer, for these rifles. The guns are nothing more than stamped steel, a barrel and some wood.

This is the main reason why there's debate in this thread. You can't markup a rifle way passed the point of it's MSRP. $1000 is a f*cking joke. The Norinco M305's definitely use, pound for pound, more steel, more wood, more milling and more fitting than any stamped steel rifle coming off of an AK platform, and they're $600 dollars.

People should be waiting for the rifles to come in country and have retailers go head to head on pricing. This WILL be a massively popular rifle in Canada, and therefore, we shouldn't be locked into the Tactical Imports pricing and model depiction.

Heck, Russian AKs probably cost only around $200 from the factory right now, however all these stamped guns are industrially intensive to produce and thus only cheap to build from scratch in large quantities.

That's one of the reasons AKs are so relatively expensive in the U.S. market despite all the competition.
 
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