Type 81 is approved!!!!!
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rally guy
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Very true! How hype am I about this rifle? Very! How hype am I at 1500-1600$ plus; Not at all. I also see no reason this should be more expensive then a a cz 858 ( circa 2012) nork ar or nork m305 territory ( maybe a ciuple tomatoes more then the m305)
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Why? You will now play dress up with your type 81 instead???
Haha just teasing
Lol, true that!!!
I would say an 858 looks more like an AK with the shorter receiver putting the mag closer to the trigger guard. Anyway, there's no doubt the CZ 858 is a great rifle. The type 81 operates more like an AK than an 858, field strips more like AK, but isn't an AK, so if it's well-made, it should hopefully have the reliability of an AK which is widely accepted as being very good, also I hear rumors it takes AK mags, only while sacrificing the bolt hold open feature...single spring for the bolt and carrier, and a swinging hammer...what's not to love? it's kind of like that thing we can't have! ;P
Awsum O
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So you are saying I gotta go to a Chinese prison to try one out. Never been to prison, but theirs sounds fun!!!!!
TheCanAm
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Ok. Good explanation
98/29
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Nowhere in my post did I say that they "only" get the parts kit AKs. When someone says: "Here in the US we get the real AKs" that implies that there is a steady and reasonably priced REAL AKs available to them.
Now let's examine 2 things: A) Price:
Since you did a search on GB why don't you tell us how much a Norinco AK was being sold for? 2? 3? 4 thousand dollars?
The average cost of manufacturing an AK in about $500 dollars the last time I checked with it being around $200 dollars in China. So why is that they are being sold at nearly 20 times the price on the US market? Because the supply is very limited and not flowing and the demand is very high. If these so called real AKs are so good then why are people willing to pay so much for the China crap?
B) Real AK:
Before I go on about this, here is something to enlighten you: Kalashnikov Concern (you know the real Kalashnikov formerly known as Izhmash) has stated numerous times that the Kalashnikov USA is neither licensed or linked to them and should the embargoes ever be lifted they will seek to resolve the trademark issue. Kalashnikov USA was simply a distributor for Kalashnikov Concern before the ban and are now basically stealing the name and making unlicensed AKs. For more information you can read this: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/04/08/exclusive-alexey-krivoruchko-the-ceo-of-the-kalashnikov-group-has-answered-your-questions/
Kalashnikov only licensed a hand full of Eastern Block countries to produce AKs, among which were Poland, Hungary, DDR and maybe Bulgaria if my memory serves me right. And as such, as far as I am concerned, everything else is simply not a real AK. Not even the Chinese AKs that regarded to, by many US AK enthusiast, as one of the higher quality AKs.
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I think the dealers know this will directly compete with VZ/CSA, if they want to sell many like they did with the VZs, they need to keep it under 1k.
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That will depend on which side of the steel gate you are on lol it's fun when you are visiting as a guest for sure, this was the late 90's rules were relaxed back then, I drank slave labour rice wine while playing Chinese drinking games with the guards...everything we ate from vege to duck were grown/raised/ by the prisoners also...100% organic one of the guards said it to me lol I never got to take a look at the cells, they ain't pretty I was told...
TERMINATOR101CA
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Ak's were also manufactured in Albania from Chinese tooling and ex Yugoslavia.
http://www.theakforum.net/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=148
Syphen
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- Barrie, ON
Doesn't Arsenal make AK's as well in the US? http://www.arsenalinc.com/
As far as I know, these aren't parts kit guns. Likely 'unlicensed' but who cares if it is? Does anyone think that Norinco bought some license to produce AR15's?
As far as I know, these aren't parts kit guns. Likely 'unlicensed' but who cares if it is? Does anyone think that Norinco bought some license to produce AR15's?
98/29
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A myriad of countries in the world have made AKs but not all of them were licensed by the Kalashnikov (Izhmash) which means they had no access to production or test data or actual measurements invented and perfected by Kalashnikov.
There are numerous occasions of torture tests failing with these unlicensed/reverse engineered AKs where the Russian ones have passed with colors. Romanian AKs for example are horrible at clearing dust/mud out of the action because of the way the bolt is cut and sits on the rails. Most people think that AKs have such loose tolerances that anything goes but that is the farthest from the truth. Yes, you can make one that works but it never work as well as it should.
98/29
CGN Regular
Too early to tell as this was approved just a few days ago. I'm sure more major vendors will want a piece of this cake so don't worry about where to get it. Just give a few months, at least 4-6 months before they show up in the market.
Moparman1303
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- Ontario, Canada
Any ideas on price?
98/29
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Anywhere between $500-$2000
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- East of Home, West of the Rest
Tactical Imports and Canada Ammo will be importing and selling for sure. Marstar has said they are looking into it and North Sylva has been quiet on the topic. If NS brings it in they wouldn't sell direct to buyers, but would distribute it to their dealers who would sell it.
JasonGTA
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It looks sweet!!!
