This thread might best be considered a "show and tell" effort.
I am relatively new to this forum as a "poster".
I have recently spent time in the "Antique Section" as I also collect U.S. Civil War arms and militaria.
The three U.S. guns shown below were manufactured in 1942.
M1911A1 pistol, M1A1 Carbine, M1928M1 Thompson smg.
Colt M1A1, Sn. 785826.
Model 1916, 1911A1 holster, manufactured by Boyt, and dated 1942.
Model M3 holster for the 1911A1 pistol. (Shoulder holster)
Manufactured by Sears Saddlery Co.
Experimental Sears 1943 Early Pattern”. (Sears only made a few of these holsters in early 1943)
The M1A1 carbine shown above is an early Inland with a six digit serial number in its original 1942 configuration.
The Thompson SMG is a M1928A1.
Inspectors markings, and Ordnance acceptance stamp.
WWII magazine pouches and other stuff.
The pouches include, 20 and 30 round Thompson smg , M1 carbine, M1911 pistol, M1 Garand,
MP40, PPSh-41, k98k leather pouches.
1943 manufactured M97 Winchester Trench shotgun. Sn. 953081E.
Markings on the Model 1917 Remington manufactured bayonet for this gun.
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1941 Mauser Portuguese Contract K98k rifle. Sn. H 1707.
Buttplate markings.
The stock markings are quite nice on this gun.
The Portuguese Crest on the stock.
The 1941 Mauser Portuguese Contract K98k Rifles were issued with matching serial numbered bayonets.
This bayonet is not numbered to the rifle (Sn. H 1707) but is in the same “H” block with serial number H 19063.
I believe there were approx. 20,000 guns in the H block.
Bayonet Markings.
Right side of cross guard-H 19063.
Left side of pommel-two Eagle/WaA519 stamps.
Scabbard Markings- H 63 on frog stud.
Frog Markings-“gtg” over 42 or 1942 the other numbers are not visible
The bayonet has a blued blade with brown wooden grips (early type).
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A couple of Mauser coded S/42 (P.08) Lugers, chamber dated 1937 and 1938.
Both guns have two matching serial numbered magazines.
A rather sweet Mauser M1934, Kreigsmarine marked pistol, with matching navy property markings on the grip strap and magazine.
And some other stuff.
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A few WWII Russian guns.
-PPSH-41 smg dated 1943. (This gun is a CA.)
-Two TT-33 pistols dated 1942 and 1945. (Tula manufactured.)
PPSh-41
The designer of the gun was Georgii S. Shpagin.
This was the principal Submachine Gun used by the Russians during World War Two. Over five million of these guns were effectively used by the Russians against the Germans. The Germans appreciated this gun and used them when they captured them from the Russians.
Cartridge: 7.62x25 (interchangeable with 7.63 Mauser; aka- .30 Mauser)
Type of Operation: Blowback
Cyclic rate: 900 rpm
Muzzle velocity: c.1600fps (488mps)
Type of Fire: Selective: full-automatic and semi-automatic
Length: 33.10 in. (828mm)
Barrel: 4 grooves, right-hand twist
Barrel Length: 10.60 in (265mm)
Weight unloaded: 8 lbs. (3.64 kg), with drum 12 lbs. (5.40 kg)
Type of Feed Mechanism: Single position feed, stamped sheet-metal, curved box magazine.
Also, a drum magazine similar to the PPD type, but possessing two feed lips.
Magazine capacity: 35 round detachable box or 71 round drum
Weight of Loaded Magazines: 1.5 lbs, box type (.680 kg), 4 lbs. drum type (1.840 kg)
Sights: Tangent with open "U" notch, adjustable from 50 to 500 meters. On the later models,
there is an open "U" notch "L" flip rear sight set for 100 and 200 meters.
Bill Berg who runs the PPSh-41 Forum was not sure what these stock markings meant on this PPSh-41 stock. (Probably inspection markings of some sort?)
There are more markings on the stock than the ones shown in the photos below.
Some other photos.
There is no doubt that this gun was given a new serial number at some point.
-Mosin-Nagant rifle M1891-30 dated 1942 Tula Arsenal manufactured with bayonet.
-M1938 Mosin-Nagant carbine, Izhevsk manufactured (1943).
-M44 Mosin-Nagant carbine , Izhevsk manufactured (1945)
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Some of the markings on the 1945 dated M44 shown above.
Some more Russian stock markings......inspection stamps???)
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One MP44 is Steyr assembled the other is Erma assembled.
The Erma is a CA.
U.S. Rifle Cal. .30 M1 (Garand)
Manufactured at Springfield Armory, barrel dated 12/43.
Inspector’s cartouche - SA over EMcF with crossed cannons ordnance escutcheon, “P” behind the trigger guard on the stock.
“EMcF” is for “Col. Earl McFarland” Commanding Officer of Springfield Armory 1942/1943.
A Model 1907 sling is fitted on this rifle.
In 1943 full production of the 10-inch M1 bayonet began. The scabbard was also shortened and re-designated the M7. On the M1 bayonet, the blood groove stops 3 inches from the tip of the blade. The M1 was the most widely issued American bayonet of the war.
The scabbard is marked “US” within the Ordnance Bomb emblem on the scabbard throat which is parkerized.
The manufacturer of this bayonet was American Fork & Hoe Company with a parkerized finished blade, and dark brown plastic grips.
The blade is marked “AFH” with US and the Flaming Ordnance Bomb is stamped between the U and the S.
The Pommel is marked with”H”. The bayonet shows little usage and appears to have been sharpened only at the factory.
Shown below is a 10 pocket M1 belt manufactured by Midwest Duck & Canvas Co. 1943.
“Two Tone Type” with green pockets, khaki flaps, and khaki adjustment strap
and strap retainers.
The pockets are the dual M1 / ’03 type, with the inner snaps for the ’03 strippers.
Markings include -“US” on one of the front pockets with “Midwest Duck & Canvas Co. 1943 “on the rear.
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U.S. M1 Carbines. -------Post WWII use by the West Germans and Austrians.
The carbines the Germans/Austrians received from the Americans 1945-1947 (during the early 'cold war' period ) tended to be used U.S. carbines of the earlier WWII configuration.
Many were not reworked and remain in their original configuration.
M1 carbines were given to the American occupational zone states of Bavaria, Hesse, Württemberg, and the city of Berlin, direct from Americans.1945-1949.
There were sometimes very particular markings placed on these M1 carbines by the Germans and Austrians after the war;…this is a specific collecting venue all by its self.
It is a fascinating story!
The man that knows all about this stuff is Jim Mock,…he has a very interesting web site;
http://www.bavarianm1carbines.com/
This is an interesting study for anyone that is interested in U.S. M1 carbine history post WWII.
Shown below are two Inland M1 carbines, barrel dated 12/43 and 7/43, both of these guns are shown on Jim Mock's site.
"Bavaria Rural Police" marking seen on the left receiver rail.
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SOME MAGAZINE POUCHES;
Thompson smg pouches.
American Leather Products Corp. - 5 cell pouch for 20 round magazines. Dated 1942.
R.M. CO. -3 cell pouch for 30 round magazines, markings;
USMC
R.M. CO.
NOm. 45412
1944
(R.M. CO. –was Russell Manufacturing Company)
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1911A1 magazine pouch that came with the rig.
(WWI markings, perhaps early issue before the US manufacturing machine got cranked up for WWII ?)
R.H. Long 5- 18.
The holster is marked “CLINTON” 1918 F.W.T.
This is probably one of the first photos that I took of the original "Capt. Gilbert Shepard Tobin" rig.
A later added magazine pouch Boyle manufactured dated 1942 as well a 1942 dated Boyt holster.
The 1911A1 pistol was manufactured in 1942.
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M1 Carbine magazine pouches dated 1943 (Updike Awning Co.) and 1945 (Avery.)
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Lanchester smg magazine pouch.
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MP40 magazine pouch-left side to carry the magazine loader.
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Russian PPSh-41 magazine pouches for the 71 round drum magazine and the 35 round stick magazines.
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Magazine pouches for the K98k rifle, dated 1938 and 1939.
- Carl Ackva
Bad Kreuznach.
1938.
-Joseph Moll
Goch
1939.
David
I am relatively new to this forum as a "poster".
I have recently spent time in the "Antique Section" as I also collect U.S. Civil War arms and militaria.
The three U.S. guns shown below were manufactured in 1942.
M1911A1 pistol, M1A1 Carbine, M1928M1 Thompson smg.
Colt M1A1, Sn. 785826.
Model 1916, 1911A1 holster, manufactured by Boyt, and dated 1942.
Model M3 holster for the 1911A1 pistol. (Shoulder holster)
Manufactured by Sears Saddlery Co.
Experimental Sears 1943 Early Pattern”. (Sears only made a few of these holsters in early 1943)
The M1A1 carbine shown above is an early Inland with a six digit serial number in its original 1942 configuration.
The Thompson SMG is a M1928A1.
Inspectors markings, and Ordnance acceptance stamp.
WWII magazine pouches and other stuff.
The pouches include, 20 and 30 round Thompson smg , M1 carbine, M1911 pistol, M1 Garand,
MP40, PPSh-41, k98k leather pouches.
1943 manufactured M97 Winchester Trench shotgun. Sn. 953081E.
Markings on the Model 1917 Remington manufactured bayonet for this gun.
__________________________________________________________________________________
1941 Mauser Portuguese Contract K98k rifle. Sn. H 1707.
Buttplate markings.
The stock markings are quite nice on this gun.
The Portuguese Crest on the stock.
The 1941 Mauser Portuguese Contract K98k Rifles were issued with matching serial numbered bayonets.
This bayonet is not numbered to the rifle (Sn. H 1707) but is in the same “H” block with serial number H 19063.
I believe there were approx. 20,000 guns in the H block.
Bayonet Markings.
Right side of cross guard-H 19063.
Left side of pommel-two Eagle/WaA519 stamps.
Scabbard Markings- H 63 on frog stud.
Frog Markings-“gtg” over 42 or 1942 the other numbers are not visible
The bayonet has a blued blade with brown wooden grips (early type).
__________________________________________________________________________
A couple of Mauser coded S/42 (P.08) Lugers, chamber dated 1937 and 1938.
Both guns have two matching serial numbered magazines.
A rather sweet Mauser M1934, Kreigsmarine marked pistol, with matching navy property markings on the grip strap and magazine.
And some other stuff.
__________________________________________________________________________
A few WWII Russian guns.
-PPSH-41 smg dated 1943. (This gun is a CA.)
-Two TT-33 pistols dated 1942 and 1945. (Tula manufactured.)
PPSh-41
The designer of the gun was Georgii S. Shpagin.
This was the principal Submachine Gun used by the Russians during World War Two. Over five million of these guns were effectively used by the Russians against the Germans. The Germans appreciated this gun and used them when they captured them from the Russians.
Cartridge: 7.62x25 (interchangeable with 7.63 Mauser; aka- .30 Mauser)
Type of Operation: Blowback
Cyclic rate: 900 rpm
Muzzle velocity: c.1600fps (488mps)
Type of Fire: Selective: full-automatic and semi-automatic
Length: 33.10 in. (828mm)
Barrel: 4 grooves, right-hand twist
Barrel Length: 10.60 in (265mm)
Weight unloaded: 8 lbs. (3.64 kg), with drum 12 lbs. (5.40 kg)
Type of Feed Mechanism: Single position feed, stamped sheet-metal, curved box magazine.
Also, a drum magazine similar to the PPD type, but possessing two feed lips.
Magazine capacity: 35 round detachable box or 71 round drum
Weight of Loaded Magazines: 1.5 lbs, box type (.680 kg), 4 lbs. drum type (1.840 kg)
Sights: Tangent with open "U" notch, adjustable from 50 to 500 meters. On the later models,
there is an open "U" notch "L" flip rear sight set for 100 and 200 meters.
Bill Berg who runs the PPSh-41 Forum was not sure what these stock markings meant on this PPSh-41 stock. (Probably inspection markings of some sort?)
There are more markings on the stock than the ones shown in the photos below.
Some other photos.
There is no doubt that this gun was given a new serial number at some point.
-Mosin-Nagant rifle M1891-30 dated 1942 Tula Arsenal manufactured with bayonet.
-M1938 Mosin-Nagant carbine, Izhevsk manufactured (1943).
-M44 Mosin-Nagant carbine , Izhevsk manufactured (1945)
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Some of the markings on the 1945 dated M44 shown above.
Some more Russian stock markings......inspection stamps???)
__________________________________________________________________________
One MP44 is Steyr assembled the other is Erma assembled.
The Erma is a CA.
U.S. Rifle Cal. .30 M1 (Garand)
Manufactured at Springfield Armory, barrel dated 12/43.
Inspector’s cartouche - SA over EMcF with crossed cannons ordnance escutcheon, “P” behind the trigger guard on the stock.
“EMcF” is for “Col. Earl McFarland” Commanding Officer of Springfield Armory 1942/1943.
A Model 1907 sling is fitted on this rifle.
In 1943 full production of the 10-inch M1 bayonet began. The scabbard was also shortened and re-designated the M7. On the M1 bayonet, the blood groove stops 3 inches from the tip of the blade. The M1 was the most widely issued American bayonet of the war.
The scabbard is marked “US” within the Ordnance Bomb emblem on the scabbard throat which is parkerized.
The manufacturer of this bayonet was American Fork & Hoe Company with a parkerized finished blade, and dark brown plastic grips.
The blade is marked “AFH” with US and the Flaming Ordnance Bomb is stamped between the U and the S.
The Pommel is marked with”H”. The bayonet shows little usage and appears to have been sharpened only at the factory.
Shown below is a 10 pocket M1 belt manufactured by Midwest Duck & Canvas Co. 1943.
“Two Tone Type” with green pockets, khaki flaps, and khaki adjustment strap
and strap retainers.
The pockets are the dual M1 / ’03 type, with the inner snaps for the ’03 strippers.
Markings include -“US” on one of the front pockets with “Midwest Duck & Canvas Co. 1943 “on the rear.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
U.S. M1 Carbines. -------Post WWII use by the West Germans and Austrians.
The carbines the Germans/Austrians received from the Americans 1945-1947 (during the early 'cold war' period ) tended to be used U.S. carbines of the earlier WWII configuration.
Many were not reworked and remain in their original configuration.
M1 carbines were given to the American occupational zone states of Bavaria, Hesse, Württemberg, and the city of Berlin, direct from Americans.1945-1949.
There were sometimes very particular markings placed on these M1 carbines by the Germans and Austrians after the war;…this is a specific collecting venue all by its self.
It is a fascinating story!
The man that knows all about this stuff is Jim Mock,…he has a very interesting web site;
http://www.bavarianm1carbines.com/
This is an interesting study for anyone that is interested in U.S. M1 carbine history post WWII.
Shown below are two Inland M1 carbines, barrel dated 12/43 and 7/43, both of these guns are shown on Jim Mock's site.
"Bavaria Rural Police" marking seen on the left receiver rail.
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SOME MAGAZINE POUCHES;
Thompson smg pouches.
American Leather Products Corp. - 5 cell pouch for 20 round magazines. Dated 1942.
R.M. CO. -3 cell pouch for 30 round magazines, markings;
USMC
R.M. CO.
NOm. 45412
1944
(R.M. CO. –was Russell Manufacturing Company)
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1911A1 magazine pouch that came with the rig.
(WWI markings, perhaps early issue before the US manufacturing machine got cranked up for WWII ?)
R.H. Long 5- 18.
The holster is marked “CLINTON” 1918 F.W.T.
This is probably one of the first photos that I took of the original "Capt. Gilbert Shepard Tobin" rig.
A later added magazine pouch Boyle manufactured dated 1942 as well a 1942 dated Boyt holster.
The 1911A1 pistol was manufactured in 1942.
_______________________________________________________________________
M1 Carbine magazine pouches dated 1943 (Updike Awning Co.) and 1945 (Avery.)
_______________________________________________________________________
Lanchester smg magazine pouch.
_________________________________________________________________________
MP40 magazine pouch-left side to carry the magazine loader.
_____________________________________________________________________________
Russian PPSh-41 magazine pouches for the 71 round drum magazine and the 35 round stick magazines.
__________________________________________________________________________________
Magazine pouches for the K98k rifle, dated 1938 and 1939.
- Carl Ackva
Bad Kreuznach.
1938.
-Joseph Moll
Goch
1939.
David
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