Ultimate hunting scope!!
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BigUglyMan
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If you're got a L.Imp you'll be looking to stretch your legs. 1000, 1500 yards or even a mile. To that end you have to think, how small is a deer/yote/goat going to look at that distance. If you take 1600 yards (for argument sake) and use a 10x glass, it's liek lookign at a target at 1x at 160 yards. To shoot him at 1x would be doable, though he won't look real thick. Take a 16x glass and it looks like 100 yards. Double up the power to 32x and it's more like 50 yards. Would you shoot a deer with a 1x scope at 160? 100? 50? Personally I think you're better with more power than less. If mirage makes the target too hard to see, turn down the power. This is not to say you will for sure take the shot however. I have a 3.5-10x Mark 4 on my LR 300 Winchester and I almost with I'd gone with another 3.5-15 NXS. For a rifle with legs like that, more power is going to give you a major leg up. I may yet switch my 3.5-15 NXS from my LE2B to my M70 "Windero" and the Mark 4 to the LE2B but that's up in the air and a question for another day.
The guys I know that are running L.Imps for LR shooting and hunting are mostly using 8-32x NXS. I don't think that you could go wrong with the 5.5-22x NXS or the 8-32x NXS with the slight nod going to the higher power model.
In the LR Hunting game, optic quality cannot be sacrificed. If you can't see it, you can't shoot it and if you don't have repeatable adjustments, you're wasting your time.
The guys I know that are running L.Imps for LR shooting and hunting are mostly using 8-32x NXS. I don't think that you could go wrong with the 5.5-22x NXS or the 8-32x NXS with the slight nod going to the higher power model.
In the LR Hunting game, optic quality cannot be sacrificed. If you can't see it, you can't shoot it and if you don't have repeatable adjustments, you're wasting your time.
Are we shooting at big game animal at 1000yds. or 1 mile? The poster asked about a scope for a hunting rifle, don't get me ranting about unethical hunting of big game animals as seen on T.V. Does anyone know the wind drift at 1 mile and how many times it changes in that distance.
BigUglyMan
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It's ironic that a guy with a picture of Elmer Keith for his avatar would disparage long range shooting.
Look at either the 8-32x56 or 5.5-22x56 NXS with the NP-R1 reticle. You get a very robust scope with good clear optics, a large objective, and lots of elevation adjustment....100 moa with the 5.5-22 and 65 moa with the 8-32. The nice part is that you have a moa reticle and moa adjustments which makes things very simple. Also, I've found that using the NP-R1 is a very accurate way of ranging distances to your target and that's something you're going to need. I like the idea behind the NP1-RR reticle....you might want to consider that reticle on a hunting only rifle.
BigUglyMan
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Troy made an interesting point on another thread. You might be short on elevation with the 8-32x. The 5.5-22x has way more adjustment.
Food for thought.
Food for thought.
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well you pay for what you get, I have the S&B 5.5x25x56mm on my .50 cal and looking throu it to me is unbelievable!! I have a leupold and a swarvoiske to me they are the best scopes in the world ....if money is no object go with S&B....if not go with a leopold or swarvosike or Kahales that is my opinion....davide
I can hear it now.....BANG! tinkle..tinkle..tinkle..tinkle
I'd probably go with a Leupold 4.5-14x40 LR. It'll hold up and you can hit game accurately out to 700yds easy.
English a second language? I agree with what you say though............
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are you anywhere near lethbridge / calgary alberta ? i have a mark4 i'd be willing to test at a depth of 65 feet, instead of the 1-3 feet you tested your product at
nope, spences bridge BC.
hmmmm, I've never tried hunting fish with a rifle....... lol I'd be more concerned with my rifle dischargeing under "65feet" of water than my scope fogging up..... lol ........ odd ball might try it and take video cam to prove it.
-nikki
65 feet is the minimum required depth set by the us military for rifle scopes, its all about hydrostatic pressure.
i would hazard a guess you haven't tested your optics at more than 5 feet, so the pressure at that depth is 1.1475 atmospheres ( 16.8636 psi )
where as the mark 4s minimum is 65 feet, working out to 2.9175 atmospheres (42.8753 psi)
so really if you want to go on to claim your product is as good or better than leupolds or bushnells why don't you shell out the cash for one of their cheapest scopes instead of using a straw man argument stating the leupold or bushnell rep wouldn't toss his scope in water because these reps are responsible for the condition of the demo equipment when its returned.
i would hazard a guess you haven't tested your optics at more than 5 feet, so the pressure at that depth is 1.1475 atmospheres ( 16.8636 psi )
where as the mark 4s minimum is 65 feet, working out to 2.9175 atmospheres (42.8753 psi)
so really if you want to go on to claim your product is as good or better than leupolds or bushnells why don't you shell out the cash for one of their cheapest scopes instead of using a straw man argument stating the leupold or bushnell rep wouldn't toss his scope in water because these reps are responsible for the condition of the demo equipment when its returned.
frankly if you really want to test your scope and its "waterproofness" get a tank of hot water and give it a try then..... lets see how good the seals are, none of this nancy pancy sticking it in cold water crap.
