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Ardent said:
My bad, you're right, you hit the bear even farther from the vitals, in the back end. I'm curious how that makes a quick kill shot. You also stated in your thread you were unfamiliar with the rifle you were shooting, and shot at extremely long range on a moving target, ultimately wounding it after you jumped out of the truck to shoot. So again, no I don't believe you'll see what's wrong with this video.

Was the shooter in a wheelchair? Unable to walk? To most of us that looked like a guy cruising forestry roads and jumping out blazing at the first moose he saw. About as low as hunting gets for most of us. I guess if all that matters is meat in the freezer, and one doesn't care how it gets there... the silly part is this isn't even the best way to hunt, or the most successful, or ethical. It's just the laziest. That's why it was posted. If he was handicapped, beyond being rather apparently out of shape, I understand. He wasn't, nor are you. Hardly drama queen commentary, but if it makes you feel better call me one again.
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I never said it was a clean kill, just that the bear was pretty much dead from massive blood loss. As for the rifle I was familiar with it just not out to that distance, the bear was 100 yards past where I normally shot that rifle. I am more familiar with my other rifles out to that distance and farther. And yes it was my one bad shot out of many animals I've taken over the years and Im far from proud of said shot and if I had the choice I wouldn't have taken it at that exact moment.

And no driving around isn't the best way to hunt and in fact generally means not seeing a freaking thing while hunting. The most surefire method of hunting is baiting. Now if sitting in a truck driving searching for game is lazy, what about baiting? Just sitting in a tree stand knowing that such and such game shows up roughly around this time everyday for a free meal so you'll just wait for it in your seat.

But as I asked are you saying that if you were driving down a trail to get to the spot where you start hiking and a buck or bull stepped out onto the road you just pass it up and go off into your normal hiking area? If yes then you are a good hunter indeed. I hunt to feed my family, it doesn't matter to me if the animal is record size buck or a spiker. If it's legal then it will go into my freezer.

Also what are you views on horseback riding? Isn't that lazy as well since Im not hiking and riding something?

As for the drama queen comment, you deserved it with the stupid "spray" comment :rolleyes:
 
Seriously hunters are our own worst enemies.... Shouldn't it simply come down to:

Was he legal in his way of hunting?
Is the animal legal to shoot?
Was he safe to shoot said animal?
Did he shoot the animal and end's it's suffering quickly and humanely?
Did he harvest said animal properly?
 
drache I'm not taking your red herring with the horses or the secanrios. I don't even care to argue that one, every hunter should be able to tell the difference between weaving through trees on trails on a horse and cruising roads in a Chevy 1500 ethics wise. Same goes for road blasting.

As for your shot, "if I had the choice I wouldn't have taken it at that moment", you did have the choice, and you ####ed up bad by choosing to shoot. You make it sound like you planned to hit that artery in its ass. You made a stupid choice, and barely avoided horribly wounding an animal because of incompetent decision making. The more you dig at this and defend the arsehats in the video the worse this gets for you, I have nothing to be ashamed of and will continue to argue what is very evidently right to the rest of us. I brushed your ridiculous bear wounding episode off as being one unbelievably dumb set of events, it seems however, it's more than that as you thumbs up the guys in this video and can't see a problem. Arguing with you is going to be about as worthwhile as banging my head on the wall, but I'm happy to do it so bring the third drama queen preach.
 
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drache said:
Seriously hunters are our own worst enemies.... Shouldn't it simply come down to:

Was he legal in his way of hunting? Questionable.
Is the animal legal to shoot? Undetermined.
Was he safe to shoot said animal? Likely not. Do you think he had a good idea what was behind those trees?
Did he shoot the animal and end's it's suffering quickly and humanely? Doesn't look like it.
Did he harvest said animal properly? Looks very possible they did not, and can't tell for sure.
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Ardent said:
As for your shot, "if I had the choice I wouldn't have taken it at that moment", you did have the choice, and you f**ked up bad by choosing to shoot. You make it sound like you planned to hit that artery in its ass.
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My comment was meant to say IF I had the choice again I wouldn't have taken the shot at that bear at that moment. My apologies for not being clear but I was headed out the door.

And give me one example where I sound like I planned to hit that artery! I OPENLY admitted to everyone here I made a bad shot when I easily could have just left that part out and everyone would have congratulated me on the bear. I openly admitted the shot was bad and I was lucky that the shot killed the bear.

Every hunter will make at least one bad shot in their life. That was my first and I learned from it.

I am just arguing the fact that hunters are willing to go postal just because someone sees an animal while driving and gets out and shoots it.

Is it a good way to hunt, no. Drive hunting is based MOSTLY upon luck than an animal is standing near the road.

Now THAT BEING SAID I watched the video last night at work and thus didn't hear the sound nor could really tell what was going on. I just rewatched it with sound and with of course a monitor that I could clearly see what was going on.

1) The first shot seems to be the guy leaning out the window of the vehicle. This is of course illegal.

2) The animal appeared to be standing in the middle of the road. This is of course unsafe.

3) Obviously it wasn't a good shot if he needed to take a second shot.

But If Im driving down a logging road moving from one spot to another and happen to see a buck standing in a cut block off to the side of the road then I should just ignore it since I seen it while in my vehicle correct?

What about with my last buck this year? I was walking down an old logging road coming from the spot where I was sitting on a game trail that morning in a cut block and spotted him while he was in the middle of the road and followed him into the trees where I shot him?
 
Since Sept 10/09 I have been mostly road hunting by either driving around in my truck or riding my quad with my now 3 1/2 year old son I really have no other choice he isn't able to hike far and when we do or if we try sitting quietly in a stand he is so freaking noisy that it scares anything & everything away... :D

He loves riding on the quad the most and he wants to do the braking and runs the throttle until his hand gets sore he has been having a load of fun going with me and probably has over 800 miles on the quad with me in the last 13 months...

If we were to see a game animal I would have no other choice than to jump off or out and fire like the guys in the video mind you I'm in a lot better shape than buddy in the orange...

I'm thinking most people in BC hunt like this as they are traveling from cut to cut or area to area all have their firearms ready just in case they see something we have endless miles of logging roads that pass thru logging cut after logging cut...

I saw nothing illegal in the actions of these guys in the video so I really don't have an issue with their hunting style.

Jaiden and I were supposed to have left this morning for another 7 - 14 days hunting trip but it is raining like crazy right now and he woke up with the sniffles yesterday so may not leave until tomorrow or Wednesday when we do get out and I set up camp we will once again be on the quad or if it is too cold for him I'll pop the camper off and we'll drive around in the truck.

Yep I am now the King of the road hunters... f:P:2:

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I wonder how many of the "whats the big deal" folk, still wouldn't have a problem with these morons if they happended to be road hunting and approaching this moose from the opposite direction?
 
This is a very typical hunting practice in NB. Not something I do, but I have seen it plenty. A lot of guys are too lazy to get out and walk the bush. Also many are ill equipped while hunting. Met one guy hunting with his father, towing a trailer with a car, looking for a moose on the road.
 
Lazy Ike said:
I wonder how many of the "whats the big deal" folk, still wouldn't have a problem with these morons if they happended to be road hunting and approaching this moose from the opposite direction?
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Ike the "what's the big deal folk" are for drive hunting itself, not about the display in the video. No one should shoot an animal as it stands in the middle of the road.
 
So what you are saying is you are passing judgment on these guys when you haven't a clue where they are or if they know what is ahead of them, are they on private fenced land etc etc etc...

I wish I could see that from the video but I can't...

:p
 
Camp Cook said:
So what you are saying is you are passing judgment on these guys when you haven't a clue where they are or if they know what is ahead of them, are they on private fenced land etc etc etc...

I wish I could see that from the video but I can't...

:p
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You can "benefit of doubt" this video all you want, but many years in the bush have taught me that what this video "appears' to depict, happens all too frequently and ultimately that is the context in which most people will view it.

I've discovered that applied altruistic sentiments tend to go out the window when a stray bullet pop's a hole in something or someone close to these balanced individuals but no doubt you're the exception.
 
Ardent said:
Where are you from? Curious about your view of Alberta as a wide open prarie, lets just say I'm getting a good chuckle.
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I'm from MB. In regard to road hunting, I'm referring more toward deer than moose. However, in MB we really don't have moose on open farmland, so road hunting isn't an option. You do have moose in SK and AB on farmland, this I know.

Road hunting is a very common practice in AB, SK and MB and you don't have to try and convince me otherwise, I know plenty of guys out west and local who do it religiously.

It's illegal here,I don't do it myself, nor do I necessarily approve of it, but to portray it as a rarity and an abnormal way of hunting in Canada is untrue.
 
I think what I was getting at is that why someone would post this video with so many "questionable" actions which could possibly incriminate ones self legally and ethically.

As hunters we need more lettuce eating do-gooders watching this and giving them more ammo to use against us.
 
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