Undecided about a 45-70

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Looking to get a lever gun in 45-70. I’m interested in an 1886 chiappa takedown 12”, but I’m not sure how well it would perform vs an 18” barrel.

Don’t really have any specific uses for it other than to go to the range and just incase there’s a bear in my yard.

Any idea what the grouping are like at 100 yards with a 12”?
 

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swray1992 said:
Looking to get a lever gun in 45-70. I’m interested in an 1886 chiappa takedown 12”, but I’m not sure how well it would perform vs an 18” barrel.

Don’t really have any specific uses for it other than to go to the range and just incase there’s a bear in my yard.

Any idea what the grouping are like at 100 yards with a 12”?
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Your first problem will be actually buying a Chiappa brand firearm......:(
 
Jesus 12” 45-70… well I try not to shame, and bear in mind I’m a 45-70 guy myself, my 1895 is my go-to gun.

That said you should just buy a short pump action or 12g lever and fire slugs. Same level of belligerent rage, brute force and ignorance, but a fraction of the cost of ammo, less wasted powder and more lead.
 
I had a marlin 1895. I shot it off the lead sled at the range which was held down with a large disc brake. It lifted it about 3 inches on every shot. I am sure a shorter barrel would be even more fun!
 
I've shot one. If you get a good one and you put a tang sight and a better front sight on it, and you handload, you can get good groups at 100 yards. In it's factory configuration I wouldn't bother past 50 yards.
 
I understand the fun the range part, but why on earth would you handicap yourself with that ridiculous short barrel if you really needed to take care of a problem bear in your yard? A super short barrel is worse in very single way vs a standard 20-24" barrel. Poorer offhand accuracy, more muzzle blast, difficult and erratic balance/ergonomics, lower velocity, ... what do you really want this for???
 
I have owned a couple of Marlin 1895s, a Rossi Rio Grande and a Henry. I presently am back to a Marlin 1895, the shorter takedowns all seem to weigh about the same as a Guide Gun so I don't see any advantage and it would seem the quality is suspect. Other than Winchester Miroku, the only two choices for me are Marlin or Henry, I am unlikely to ever part with my present Marlin.
 
swray1992 said:
Looking to get a lever gun in 45-70. I’m interested in an 1886 chiappa takedown 12”, but I’m not sure how well it would perform vs an 18” barrel.

Don’t really have any specific uses for it other than to go to the range and just incase there’s a bear in my yard.

Any idea what the grouping are like at 100 yards with a 12”?
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45-70 recoils hard, range time will be short and unpleasant. If you must, pick a gun with a 20-22" barrel and with some heft to it.
 
Recoil will be what u desire as can buy all purpose loads which can be used in trapdoor model or loads all the way up to heavy recoil. If reload can also make load to your desire
 
In all honesty, this will just be a range toy as it will not offer any real performance down range. Groupings at 100 yards would be more like patterns. I'd imagine it would be fun though, tossing some good fireballs. I would consider a different brand though
 
I would highly recommend something longer. The handiness of a short rifle is more than offset with recoil, longer sight picture, and greater velocity. Upgrade to ring sights.
 
swray1992 said:
Looking to get a lever gun in 45-70. I’m interested in an 1886 chiappa takedown 12”, but I’m not sure how well it would perform vs an 18” barrel.

Don’t really have any specific uses for it other than to go to the range and just incase there’s a bear in my yard.

Any idea what the grouping are like at 100 yards with a 12”?
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i bought 2 45-70's
one was a double rifle, very nice
the other was a marlin also vey nice
kick like hell and when i missed 2 bears in 2 days
they were for sale
i've never missed them.
 
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