Unidentified Weapon

[AdamP]

Neat guns. They make that M1 Garand look tiny! I can only imagine the size of one of these monsters.
Adam

 

[mbonner]

Yes, Captain Boys. The one I saw has a muzzle-brake attatched. As far as I know some were converted by owners to 50 cal Browning after the fact and were never issued to the army in that calibre

 

[steveb67]

It is a world war 2 ant tank rifle!.....it looks like from the pic, a type 97 Automatic Cannon, (rifle)

 

[stencollector]

Yes, Captain Boys. The one I saw has a muzzle-brake attatched. As far as I know some were converted by owners to 50 cal Browning after the fact and were never issued to the army in that calibre

Most were converted in the US to get away from the "destructive device" regulations, which apply to anything over 50 cal in the US. My own reason for conversion was because ammo was too hard to come by and I like to shoot my stuff.

There are photos of one converted by the US military to 50BMG and used for long distance harassing fire (and sniping) during the 50s. The barrel was just a M2 barrel grafted onto the rifle.

 

[lazysod]

thanks everyone for all the replies. Yes, whoever saw the picture and called that it was backwards was right! I was lazy and just used my webcam to take a photo. My scanner wasn't working. As for shooting one, Stencollector, I would honoured if you would allow me to take a shot, and I don't mind being blasted back a foot. Heck, two feet if need be! Really awesome being in a forum like this. Thanks again.

 

[Grizzly Adams]

Most were converted in the US to get away from the "destructive device" regulations, which apply to anything over 50 cal in the US. My own reason for conversion was because ammo was too hard to come by and I like to shoot my stuff.

There are photos of one converted by the US military to 50BMG and used for long distance harassing fire (and sniping) during the 50s. The barrel was just a M2 barrel grafted onto the rifle.

Knew a guy who imported one from England. To be legal there, it had been converted to a shotgun.

 

[stencollector]

and I don't mind being blasted back a foot. Heck, two feet if need be! .

Unless you were crazy enough to ry and fire it standing up, you won't go backwards much. It does shake things up pretty good though, and I recommend long sleeves and pants when operating these guns.

 

[green]

Two Marks of AP ammo were issued with the Boys ATR:
MkI 905 gr bt at 2450 fps penetrated 16 mm armour plate at 100 yd me 12065 fp.
MkII 735 gr bt at 2900 fps penetrate 19mm armour at 100 yd me 13729 fp.

For comparison:
50 Browning AP M2 705 gr bt at 2900 fps penetrate 7/8" (22mm) homogenous steel at 200 yd me 13168 fp.

 

[TonyE]

Not just two Marks of AP.....
Three Marks of Ball
Two Marks of Practice Ball
Three Marks of Proof
One Mark of Tracer
One Mark of Drill
One Mark of Dummy
.22 Adaptor

In addition there was an armour piercing W Mark III which was never formally introduced and a .55/.303 Training Round.

I can't post attachments otherwise I would put some pictures up. How many posts do I need before I can post attachments?

Regards
TonyE

 

[Travis Bickle]

Hey everyone, found a picture of my grandfather training men at Petawawa in the mid to early 40's. Does anyone know what kind of gun this is in the picture? IF so, any chance I can find someone to fire one? I would love to! Thanks for your help. BTW the picture is a little fuzzy and I can get a clearer one, I just thought some of you experts would know.


http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r526/lazysod303/Photoon12-09-30at721PM.jpg

Hey!

Is that Alpha Range!? lol

 

[fat tony]

Cool rifles. I would prefer one of the Soluthurn S18's I heard Wolverine has one as a 'conversation piece' - or was it some other business?

Talk about immensely huge and powerful rifles for which you can't get ammo or range time for! Still and all - would be cool to have as a 'man - cave' gun.

 

[smellie]

Do they not take the 20x139?

If so, the it is still in production, if a touch n the expensive side.

BRUTE of a thing, ennit?

 

[ageon]

boys in .55 cal

 

[lazysod]

not sure I get travis's joke.

 

[TonyE]

I have fired both the 20mm Solothurn and the Lahti, and whilst fierce, they are manageable.

I was also surprised at how accurate they were at about 1,000 yards, espectially with WW2 era ammo.

Regards
TonyE

 

[buffdog]

Cool rifles. I would prefer one of the Soluthurn S18's I heard Wolverine has one as a 'conversation piece' - or was it some other business?

Talk about immensely huge and powerful rifles for which you can't get ammo or range time for! Still and all - would be cool to have as a 'man - cave' gun.

,
WOLVERINE has one in their Museum in Virden. Some interesting other pieces as well.