Unissued Polish M-44 what's it worth ?

PS: Russian refurbed Mosins generally do NOT have staked action screws. Bring a screw driver to the range and every 30 or so rounds, make sure the screws remain snugged. Unstaked mosin screws have a tendency to loosen under use.
 
Andy said:
That opinion seems to have a common source - what guys say on the Internet. I consider it a myth, or at best conjecture. I can see that POA would change with bayonet folded or open, but since the usual, most commonly used position is folded (you're not supposed to run around with the bayonet extended), it seems like the opposite should be true. Show me some original literature (e.g. an Army Manual) that supports the open bayonet theory, or even someone who has actually tested the theory with Milsurp ammo and more than one gun, and I might lean the other way.
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My Polish M44 would shift 10moa to the right at 100m with bayo in the closed position, compared to POA with the bayo open. Do 91/30's have a side mounted bayo or does it attach under the barrel? Might be why all these 91/30's shoot so high without the bayo.....:)
 
My refurb 91/30 needs the bayonet to hit POA. It's like Hitzy said, about 6-10 inches off.

I also have m44's that are zero'd for bayonet open AND for bayonet closed.
 
Unissued Polish M-44 what's it worth ?
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on the EE?
$950!


about the bayo thing:
russian soldiers were ordered to keep their bayonets fixed at all times. the only exception to this was when they were riding around in troop transports.
the russian insistence on bayonets is scoffed at and made fun of in so many threads about mosins all over the web (not referring to this one). 'yeah the M44 has a fixed bayonet, those crazy russians and their bayonets, omglolwtf!?#'.
i honestly dont see what the big deal is: id certainly want a bayonet on the end of my rifle in something like the grueling street-to-street fighting of stalingrad, especially in conditions where resupply was nonexistant.
 
M38 vs M44?

Has anyone got a group of these 2 rifles together and shot them? ie m38 vs m44 (bayo removed) M44 bayo stowed, extended. In simple terms the barrels should be the same a same attaching style to the reciever. Does the M44 justhave a boss mounted for the bayo as being the only differance? Again this will only work if you can average the groupings with several of the types say maybe... 100 each!!!!
 
I have shot my Polish M44 carbines with bayo on, bayo off but never extended. Have yet to see a difference as both shot POI at 100 meters with various loads such as Hungarian 147 FMJ, Hungarian 174 FMJ, Igman 150 FMJ and handloaded 123SP loads and even with 150 grain 308 FMJ bullets, although accuracy was lacking with the 308 loads, shooting around 5" last time out at 100 meters. This winter I am cooking up some Sierra 174 match bullet loads and I have to test some Russian 7N1 loads through the M44's. I am hoping to shoot some nice tight groups with the Sierra 174 match bullets with some new Graf brass as the best I can do with open sights is 2" for a 5 shot group at 100 meters using my 123 SP handloads with the rifle sandbagged. My 123 SP loads shot about 5" low, the 174 Hungarian surplus shot 2" high and the 147's shot dead on and just as accurately as the Igman 150 loads, which were also dead on. The 308 loads patterened, so tough to tell if high or low.
 
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Russian Bayonets Fixed or Stowed

I have a number of Russian, Finnish, and Polish Mosin-Nagants in my collection. One of my M38's has a large flash or muzzle break on it that looks like the AK-74 type. Is it an after market flash or something used on the M38's only? I never thought much about the accuracy of the M91/30's or the M44's being sighted in with bayonets fixed. It sounds reasonable and I would like to check it out, but my M44 is also new and unfired and I would like to leave it that way. What kind or groups do you get with all three of the Mosin-Nagants? Do the older 91's out shoot the M91/30's, and which ones are the most accurate; I would think the Finn Mosin's would be the best? I have a Westinghouse M91 and its bore is like a mirror so I gather it hasn't been shot much. The guy I purchased it from said it shot really well but it was too darn long to carry in the woods. He said it was like carrying a spear because he is vertically challenged.

I have one M38 with what looks like a M44 stock because of the relief on the right side. I suppose they used M44 stock as replacements because of convenience.
I have had about 20 Moisin-Nagants over the years and haven't put a round through an M38 or M44 yet. I heard the M38 kicks like a No5 Jungle Carbine? I suppose I should take one to the range if I can find a reasonable source of ammo for them.
I had a guy from NS wanted one of my 91/30's at the Truro or the Waverly gun show, but I can't remember who wanted it. It was a nice 1953 or 1954 model with dark wood, bayonet, and sling. I couldn't find the registration and am sure it's registered will have to call the CFC to confirm. It’s tagged with a registration indicator.

I would like to have a Mosin with a laminated stock for my collection, but am only in a trade situation, disability pensions don't give you much money to spare after you pay all the bills. Going from a high income to a fraction, as the result of a slip while working, happened in a split second. Can't do much or travel very far with chronic pain. It sucks when you want to go shooting because you can't plan on a date or time to go out, it depends on how you feel. Same thing while working in my shop, have a couple of projects on the go but am screwed when anything heavy has to be moved. I have to wait for my son or a friend to do it for me. Same goes for packing items up and sending them out some of the parts are in crates packed away. I have to get a friend over to help me dig them out.
 
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