Unissued Russian SKS?

Why? Only reason is if you use non corrosive sp hunting ammo with softer primers. If shooting surplus ammo there's no need for the sprung pin. The Russians deleted it on a rifle intended for untrained and largely illiterate conscripts. If they didn't find it necessary for their troops, why do we suddenly need them now?
 
Why? Only reason is if you use non corrosive sp hunting ammo with softer primers. If shooting surplus ammo there's no need for the sprung pin. The Russians deleted it on a rifle intended for untrained and largely illiterate conscripts. If they didn't find it necessary for their troops, why do we suddenly need them now?

I agree, i was planning to do some Deer Hunting this fall.Halifax finally has soft Point Ammo available in 7.62x39.
 
I boiled my bolt and then soaked it in gasoline for a couple of hours - no scrubbing required - the firing pin moves loosely now.
 
The very first thing i did when i got my first Chinese was to pop out the retaining pin that holds in the firing pin and clean that channel out with a Q-Tip...the pin rattles around in there great now, I do plan however to order the Spring firing pins from a company in Texas.

http://www.murraysguns.com/sksown.htm

I bought 3 of Murrays pins a few months ago. Excellent quality. RMXC51 is right about not needing it if your firing surplus. I'm reloading 7.62x39 and don't need a Fudd attack at the range when they see brass cases going into an SKS. There are "Arsenal" mil-spec primers out there that can handle the rather violent cycling action of the SKS, but I haven't found any yet. The spring pin makes it pretty safe, but it needs to keep clean too.
 
I bought 3 of Murrays pins a few months ago. Excellent quality. RMXC51 is right about not needing it if your firing surplus. I'm reloading 7.62x39 and don't need a Fudd attack at the range when they see brass cases going into an SKS. There are "Arsenal" mil-spec primers out there that can handle the rather violent cycling action of the SKS, but I haven't found any yet. The spring pin makes it pretty safe, but it needs to keep clean too.

I am going to the Range next Friday at Chester Grant (NS) with my SKS and for that i just use the Military Surplus, for $6.50 a box you can't beat it.Only next fall when i plan to do some Deer Hunting i will put in the spring firing pin for the SP ammo.
 
Why? Only reason is if you use non corrosive sp hunting ammo with softer primers. If shooting surplus ammo there's no need for the sprung pin. The Russians deleted it on a rifle intended for untrained and largely illiterate conscripts. If they didn't find it necessary for their troops, why do we suddenly need them now?

I justed wanted to chime in and say that I shoot Prvi soft points (soft primers) in my '52 SKS exclusively, and I have never had a problem, or a need for a spring firing pin.
 
Quite a few? Where are they?

Sitting in safes and waiting on current supply to dry out. Then they will appear at 500.00 a piece, just like SKS-D:)
On a serious note, I remember that Ellwood Eps had a bunch of them for sale(that's where my Tula came from) along with Frontier and others...Also, I looked at a few SKS's at our local shop in St. John's and they all appeared unissued, however they were pinned to the the mag. base with a large rivet.
 
I justed wanted to chime in and say that I shoot Prvi soft points (soft primers) in my '52 SKS exclusively, and I have never had a problem, or a need for a spring firing pin.

Really? that is good to know and maybe if that is the case i will leave my Type-56 the way it is...only reason i was considering the Spring firing pin was for the soft Point Ammo as i heard sometimes you can get a "Popped Primer".What kind of Soft Point Ammo are you using?
 
Really? that is good to know and maybe if that is the case i will leave my Type-56 the way it is...only reason i was considering the Spring firing pin was for the soft Point Ammo as i heard sometimes you can get a "Popped Primer".What kind of Soft Point Ammo are you using?

In the past, i shot fews hundreds rounds of PMC soft point with my Tula 1956 and never had any problems with. Honestly, i think peoples worry too much about shooting commercials ammo with a free floating firing pin. Just keep it dry and clean,if the pin rattle freely, you are safe:)
Jocelyn
 
In the past, i shot fews hundreds rounds of PMC soft point with my Tula 1956 and never had any problems with. Honestly, i think peoples worry too much about shooting commercials ammo with a free floating firing pin. Just keep it dry and clean,if the pin rattle freely, you are safe:)
Jocelyn

I am going shooting at the Range this Friday so i gave my Chinese a going over Yesterday and i made sure that the firing pin rattles like a toy.....:D
 
Sitting in safes and waiting on current supply to dry out. Then they will appear at 500.00 a piece, just like SKS-D:)
On a serious note, I remember that Ellwood Eps had a bunch of them for sale(that's where my Tula came from) along with Frontier and others...Also, I looked at a few SKS's at our local shop in St. John's and they all appeared unissued, however they were pinned to the the mag. base with a large rivet.

I don't think $500.00 a piece for a mint condition, unissued, unfired SKS is a lot to pay. That day will come.

The rivet at the base of the mag, while annoying, won't detract too much from the value and is, in my opinion, less destructive than welding a pin to the follower.

BTW, Americans are looking for ways to limit magazine capacity to 5 rounds for hunting purposes -- as the SKS is a popular deer rifle.
 
Really? that is good to know and maybe if that is the case i will leave my Type-56 the way it is...only reason i was considering the Spring firing pin was for the soft Point Ammo as i heard sometimes you can get a "Popped Primer".What kind of Soft Point Ammo are you using?

I shoot exclusively Prvi Partizan 123 grain soft points with the nice brass cases. My remaining "shooter" SKS will never see the corrosive surplus stuff until after the Rapture :( :confused:
 
I agree based on my experiences (limited). IMHO, get a refurbished one, you will be better off with a better looking gun at much lower price.

I am not an SKS expect, but I have handled well over a hundred rifles this past year. There are ways of determing the extent of use. I can tell an unfired SKS by looking at the state of the bolt assembly, gas piston, and a few other non-descript areas. However, I agree, anything can be "issued", but that does not always mean used.

I also have a beautiful mild refurb that I went to town on and had parkerized and armacoated, and it happens to be an excellent shooter. I would highly suggest buying a good refurb if you plan to enjoy it, and save the rare non-refurb/unfired pieces for safe keeping.
 
I still have in my personnal collection one Russian SKS made by TULA in 1954.

When I pick this rifle, was unissued, unrefurb and unfired.

I shot 20 rounds whit this rifle, it's some handling marks on the stock.

Magazine capacity reduced with a rod welded to the follower (IZH).

Somebody interested, PM me.
 
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