Unrestricted going restricted

scott_r

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What would happen if did not have a restricted PAL and your Swiss Arms, Tavor, XCR..ect happen to go to restricted status. Would the gov't allow you to write the restricted test? Would they confiscate?

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The point of restricting firearms is to reduce the number in circulation, hint, hint. I have seen firearms confiscated in this country, for no reason other than the way they looked - I wouldn't put anything past the bureaucracy (the politicians aren't in control on this, by the way - they just tell you that they are so you'll do as you're told)
 
I wouldn't worry too much about more firearms becoming restricted. I'm thinking that they will skip that step and simply wholesale prohibit and then confiscate large numbers and types of firearms. The next time around there will not be a "grand father" clause. They learned their lesson on that one.

The only purpose behind licencing and registration is confiscation. If the govenment had no intention of confiscating legal guns there never would have been a registration.
 
Well a good case example is the BS they are trying to pull with the Norinco 97....

While it's not exactly the same I'd say it pretty much gives you your answer.

The T97 is not a good example compared to the OPs post above. They share no similarities.
 
The T97 is not a good example compared to the OPs post above. They share no similarities.

In my reference it's more about the movement from one class to another.. no about similarities between the actual firearm.

ie: from res to prohib

And knowing the morons in charge of the 'rules" i wouldn't put it past them to try to confiscate before allowing a change in license class..
 
I wouldn't worry too much about more firearms becoming restricted. I'm thinking that they will skip that step and simply wholesale prohibit and then confiscate large numbers and types of firearms. The next time around there will not be a "grand father" clause. They learned their lesson on that one.

The only purpose behind licensing and registration is confiscation. If the government had no intention of confiscating legal guns there never would have been a registration.

That's a pretty negative outlook. Licensing and registration also has to do with competency and ability to use safely. That is why you take a course for PAL or RPAL.

You attract what you believe into your life. So be careful what you order up.

Krunch
 
Licensing and registration also has to do with competency and ability to use safely. That is why you take a course for PAL or RPAL.


Regarding licensing, either you're kidding, or you need a lesson in the history of gun control in Canada - tell me you're kidding; regarding registration, either you weren't around to see the last bunch of confiscations, or you're kidding - tell me you're kidding. There are already confiscations coming - ask a Type 97 owner.
 
Regarding licensing, either you're kidding, or you need a lesson in the history of gun control in Canada - tell me you're kidding; regarding registration, either you weren't around to see the last bunch of confiscations, or you're kidding - tell me you're kidding. There are already confiscations coming - ask a Type 97 owner.

We all know about the Type 97 issue. And I have been around long enough to know about the previous rounds of confiscations and the various outcomes of the court cases involved.

With regard to licensing, I don't want to be at ranges or in the field with other firearms owners who have just walked out and purchased a firearm with no training. Been down that road before and it is scary. Even today with the courses required for a PAL or RPAL you still get people out there who are careless but it is a lot less than it used to be. So no, I am not kidding.

Frankly, I think the training should be more robust with actual qualification on range and approval by a competent and qualified range officer. But that is my opinion.

As for registration, I don't think non-res firearms should be registered. But I do think you should have a license to buy them. And since that is likely the way it will be it is quasi-registration anyway.

Be careful what you wish for. We do not have 2nd amendment rights in this country. The majority allows us to own firearms and if you end up pissing off enough of the majority with opinions that far right you will end up with a slingshot instead of the firearms we enjoy in this country.

If as a community we are smart about it we could actually get everything we want and more by making the other side think it was their idea if we had a collaborative and focused strategy. But we do not. Instead we have a bunch of guys running around saying "you can't take away our firearms and we should be able to do what we want". Well that does not work and the history of gun control conflict in Canada has borne that out.

That is my opinion and you have yours and I respect that.

Krunch
 
:rolleyes: Please.....I wish people would give that silliness a rest.

If the cops knock on your door and ask you to give them your guns you'll do it.

Sorry officer.. it is not here.. I loaned it to a friend I met at my local range. Is I did make sure he had a PAL/RPAL in his possession first of course. Whats his address? I don't know.. I see him at the club all the time.

"That's foolish and we don't believe you." says the officer.

I'm sorry you feel that way.. but I'm a trusting type of guy.. I don't mind loaning out a gun to a fellow shooter. We have to be friendly and help out others with our hobby after all.

Now unless you have a warrant (which you cannot have without just cause and to which I can protest before it is issued) you'll excuse me I have something actually important to do.. and I do believe you do as well... like dealing with actual criminals.. it is your job after all for which I am paying.
 
Sorry officer.. it is not here.. I loaned it to a friend I met at my local range. Is I did make sure he had a PAL/RPAL in his possession first of course. Whats his address? I don't know.. I see him at the club all the time.

"That's foolish and we don't believe you." says the officer.

I'm sorry you feel that way.. but I'm a trusting type of guy.. I don't mind loaning out a gun to a fellow shooter. We have to be friendly and help out others with our hobby after all.

Now unless you have a warrant (which you cannot have without just cause and to which I can protest before it is issued) you'll excuse me I have something actually important to do.. and I do believe you do as well... like dealing with actual criminals.. it is your job after all for which I am paying.

Just say they fell off a boat.:p
 
Just say they fell off a boat.:p

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Krunch, I agree, licensing is necessary to prevent complete idiots from walking around with guns. Its not necessary for all, or even most, but there are people out there who are a danger to themselves and others with their attitudes and behaviour. But registration is NOT necessary for anything an upstanding citezen needs. Neither is a prohib class, or restricting semi-autos of any kind. Maybe have extra training and endorsement required for full auto at most. But I do agree with licensing as it helps filter out criminals and prepare idiots and those brand new to shooting. The whole course focuses mainly around safety and a little common sense, both are necessary to keep shooting fun and safe, which is what it is all about. Just my 2 cents
 
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