PitBull1973
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And where do you have proof it's only 10% Sherlock
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And where do you have proof it's only 10% Sherlock
Are you really trying to argue the merits of restricted vs non? It's a losing proposition. The 'restricted' word itself speaks volumes about it. Thanks, but no thanks. AR platform was the only game in town for a while, but now that similar firearms with non-restricted status are available (for a premium) it's the easiest choice any gun owner can make.
I have an XCR-M and I have hunted moose and coyotes with it. I work with a guy who has an XCR-M and he hunts with his. I also work with two guys with XCR-L's and they use them as their primary varmint rigs. I don't know anyone yet that doesn't hunt with theirs or use it exclusively OUTSIDE a range. I have sold all my AR's and other restricted rifles as my gun club is 3 hours or so away and I personally could not be bothered to make the trip just to shoot my guns.
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My feeling exactly.
Not posting to argue the Non-Restricted versus Restricted issue, because all but dedicated bench rest shooters prefer/care to have a NR rifle versus a Restricted rifle; so in that respect there should be no argument.
Just wanting to say that calling an XCR-L/-M, Famae 540/542 or any other Canadian market NR centre-fire semi.-auto. (non-bull pup) "so called Black Rifle" similar to an AR just ain't so (perhaps excusing the ACR which isn't available as a NR in Canada; yet it still would be significantly heavier then an AR IIRC).
Quality high end AR's like Colt (CDN), KAC, LMT etc. (of which most sell for well under the price of Canadian NR black rifles) are far superior where it counts and when combining an AR's main attributes, those being reliability, accuracy and weight (meaning less weight) there really is no similarity to these so called Canadian NR black rifles (and that's not including ease of parts replacement or mentioning initial cost savings).
So calling them similar is really a far stretch from reality, no disrespect intended just trying to keep it real. Because for those who value the AR's attributes regardless of where they can legally fire their rifles(s) (right now) the choice is simple, as the AR rules over all still.
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Actually we sell them for $2649.
Small production: Do we have actual production output numbers from FAMAE? Vs SAN production output numbers?
Higher quality than most: An SG540 & SG542 sells for $2,999 @ SFRC (the mandatory "regular price") and sells for $2,699 @ Tactical Imports.
What are the comparable firearms at that price point?
KACs SR-15e3
LMTs CQB MRP, Defender
Armalite Super SASS (on sale mind you)
What is higher or of equal quality than those?
The way I see it is that they are that price because they are NR and very low production numbers, but would like actual facts to prove otherwise.
The point was that it's a marketing attention grabber to advertise it at a much higher price when your sale price is actually the same (or very close too) as every other retailer
You're in business to make money, so everything is fair game.
If you want to get really technical, the first produced 540's were made in Neuhausen. About 670 rifle were produced off of newly manufactured production machinery for Swiss military trials. Ultimately the Swiss Army rejected the design after two lengthy evaluations citing 24 design changes. These some of these 24 failure points could not be corrected by modifing the production machinery, so SIG began shopping the design around. MANURHIN expressed interest in it for an interim rifle for the French military (Foreign Legion primarily) and African nation sales. This effectively got around the then Swiss law prohibiting military rifle export sales.
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Sorry, but but the FAMEA built quality is no where close to a SIG/SAN rifle. In nearly every measure of quality it falls far short. The only really comparable component is the barrel. Tolerances and part to part variances are lacking. If you examine 3-4 FAMEA's side by side, you quickly find that the front sight block may be tight on one rifle and loose on others, strait on 2 and crooked on others. Same goes for upper to lower fit, etc. I liken the FAMEA compared to the SAN as Soviet era verses East German produced AK's. Both are functional, but the german produced rifles were a step above the Soviet ones in every point.
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Ar180shooter
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If you've had a different experience, I'd like to hear it in more detail, but I'm basing my opinion on what I've seen.
Ar180shooter
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Germany never made a 540 variant to the best of my knowledge, so I assumed you were referring to the currently produced German Sig Sauer 550 Sport rifles. The Sig 540 design was licensed to several companies including Manurhin in France and FAMAE in Chile, but none in Germany licensed the rifle AFAIK. I have no doubt that you handled one in Germany, but that doesn't mean it's a German made rifle...
Looking forward to it when you can
The 2 biggest quick performance enhancements... #1 tighten the front gas block to barrel fit (don't use a center punch to dimple the barrel, rather use the socket method to lightly flatten the barrel splines using very light taps of a small hammer. Test fit after each light tap. There should be zero lateral movement in the gas block but it shouldn't be so tight you need a hammer to get it on or off. #2 ditch the gas block mounted bipod. The Swiss military found as much as a 20cm change in POI when testing the SG54X at 300 meters. There are a number of other tunes, but these are quick and general have the greatest result.
Okay..I'll check it out thanks! --one quick question--by barrel splines, do you mean the small notch on the underside of the barrel? Other than this, my barrel has no "splines" on it.
