UPDATE on BREN 2 N/R Rifles

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No shooting cheap Chinese or Russian SURPLUS ammo from your EXPENSIVE Bren 2 that we converted. This ammo is NOT made to CIP / SAAMI specifications and being steel cased it may ,or may NOT feed properly in the rifle. These are not loosy-goosy chambered military rifles, don't shoot military ammo through them.

You paid good money for an accurate machine. If you feed it S**TY ammo it will not perform well nor will it work well. If you want to shoot cheap ammo then buy yourself one of those SKS things and ping-ping-ping till your heart's content. If you bought a PRECISION machine from us then treat it like that and buy commercial, properly made, brass cased ammunition.
 
Seems wrong to actually need quality 7.62x39, when that’s the classic cheap commie crate of crappy but cheerful ammo. Likewise at the other end of the spectrum there’s no good reason for non-premium 6.5 Creedmoor. Easier to not feed the wrong thing into a gun when each calibre stays in its lane.
 
If it cant chug through 7.62 surplus like an OEM one, you've ####ed something up.

Also you guys test fired them with the cheapest Norinco copper washed steel ammo and didn't have an issue?

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Here I am, naively thinking that all of this drama was about a 5.56/.223 version of the rifle...


But no, it's a all about trying to convince the lunpenproletariat that quality is somewhat derived from availability.
 
Ouch... what's the story behind this post?
Edit: looks like there was an out of battery issue using steel cased stuff, based on a post by Dlask. I guess they don’t feed well in these barrels as-chambered.
 
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misterplinker1 said:
Ouch... what's the story behind this post?
Edit: looks like there was an out of battery issue using steel cased stuff, based on a post by Dlask. I guess they don’t feed well in these barrels as-chambered.
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We made these the same way with the same blanks and the same reamer as the other 7.62 guns we've made in N/R so nothing there has changed.

We did shoot white box copper washed from the guns and most of them ran fine, some we tweaked but this is normal for most guns. We shot the final tests all with PPU and not a single hiccup. What you guys aren't taking into account is that crap ammo from China State factory number whichever may or may not be sized / loaded/ finished to CIP / SAAMI specifications and the issues with steel case / lacquer finishing are WELL known.

So until I see the rifle in person I won't know why. What does concern me and none of you have cottoned on to is HOW the gun fired out of battery. This isn't suppose to be able to happen. . .
 
Dlask Arms said:
We made these the same way with the same blanks and the same reamer as the other 7.62 guns we've made in N/R so nothing there has changed.

We did shoot white box copper washed from the guns and most of them ran fine, some we tweaked but this is normal for most guns. We shot the final tests all with PPU and not a single hiccup. What you guys aren't taking into account is that crap ammo from China State factory number whichever may or may not be sized / loaded/ finished to CIP / SAAMI specifications and the issues with steel case / lacquer finishing are WELL known.

So until I see the rifle in person I won't know why. What does concern me and none of you have cottoned on to is HOW the gun fired out of battery. This isn't suppose to be able to happen. . .
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No speculation from my post, just posting what you said on a different thread.

Here's my speculation:
Failed firing pin block? No firing pin spring in the 7.62x39 guns leading to slam-fire? (Less likely on hard milsurp primers or with a functional firing pin block)

I can induce a situation with my bolt carrier and 7.62x39 internals where the firing pin protrudes while not being fully in battery on my bench, but I don't think there is a situation where this would happen in an assembled Bren while firing with no broken parts or out of spec firing pin. The firing pin block should prevent OOB. Maybe there was hammer follow from firing fast which would bypass the pin block?
 
So I get the argument about some ammo not being up to CIP/SAAMI specs, I really do BUT, over the years, we have now collectively shot out billions of rounds of various surplus out of our 858's, CSA-58's, SKS, hell, I used to own an AR-15 in that caliber, all without any significant problems but the glorified Bren cannot handle it safely ? Really ? I understand some of the surplus ammo is worse then other but it sounds to me like the rifle is the problem, not the ammo. By the way, over the years and of the collection of various surplus, mysteriously the copper washed Chinese surplus ran most consistently and reliably, a little slower but reliable nevertheless.
 
I bet using factory brass cased ammo like Federal can have slam fires since their primers are soft and prone to compared to hard, surplus ammo. That doesn’t mean surplus ammo will work well in tight chambers compared to saami spec.
 
I see NS introducing a Bren 2 DMR nonrestricted in 223 and 308. How much more awesome do those get with some Dlask goodness? Would be nice to get an accurate NR semi without having to go through the restricted dance.
 
old303 said:
I see NS introducing a Bren 2 DMR nonrestricted in 223 and 308. How much more awesome do those get with some Dlask goodness? Would be nice to get an accurate NR semi without having to go through the restricted dance.
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That’s incredible! Imagine what other calibers could be cooked up.
 
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